• Transient Punk@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    The only policy you provided as an example of progressive policy was the ACA, which was the brainchild of famed progressive thinker Mitt Romney.

    Nothing in your response is related to progressive policies. Try harder.

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      4 months ago

      Let’s turn it around.

      Why don’t you list all the Progressive polices that have actually been enacted.

      You must have hundreds to choose from.

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        4 months ago

        You realize there is a difference between ‘popular’ and ‘implemented,’ right?

        Popular opinion has virtually no impact on policy, unless you’re rich. This article describes the relationship.

        “Not only do ordinary citizens not have uniquely substantial power over policy decisions, they have little or no independent influence on policy at all."

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          4 months ago

          You realize there is a difference between ‘popular’ and ‘implemented,’ right?

          Yes I do. The ACA got implemented because Obama got votes.

          The agenda you want doesn’t get implemented because instead of getting out the vote, the Left manages not to get people to the polls over and over and over.

          Trump is getting votes from the working class while the Left isn’t.

          Politics isn’t about debating who has the best ideas, it’s about winning votes.

          It’s about the votes.

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            4 months ago

            Hmm… How shall we win these votes from the lower class? Should we listen to their complaints and plights? Should we come up with ideas that resonate with the populace and excites them so they actually want to come out to vote for us rather than it being a feeling of obligation?

            No. Let’s not do any of that, let’s just take bribes from the rich and do whatever they say. Then we can blame the left for being uninspired by our outrageous greed!

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              4 months ago

              If you were getting any votes at all, we wouldn’t be having this talk, would we?

              Look up the Moral Majority. Back in the 1970s they jumped in and grabbed power in the GOP from the ground up.