Tim Walz has said he’s “sick and tired of hearing about thoughts and prayers” following the Apalachee High School shooting in Georgia, which left four dead.

Walz, who was named as Kamala Harris’ running mate in the race for the White House in August, spoke about the Wednesday (4 September) shooting at a campaign rally at the Highmark Amphitheater in Erie, Pennsylvania on Thursday.

He told his supporters: “We believe in the freedom to send our kids to school without being shot dead in the hall.”

“The news cycle moves on within a day,” he commented of the incident, adding that kids had returned to school feeling excited and “now we have four dead”.

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    There is literally no way to do less… Than hopes and prayers

    It is a total abdication of responsibility for fixing a problem

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    Look how far you’ve let this charade go, republicans… You know you have quiet moments where you are fully aware that you’re just trapped in this irrational hate machine. This is literally a child named after a gun shooting other children to death. And you still just sit there, hiding in your full cowardice and not admitting outwardly that you chose the wrong path. You’re a fucking disgrace.

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    These sicko republicans, they have no idea what the second amendment means, which means they are messing this up for all of us. I’ve always believed in a strong 2nd amendment which means I want a legal tank with ammo in a secure location in my back yard. These republifucker weirdos don’t even know what the second amendment means. If I have to park my tank downtown so be it, but I want to have a tank with ammo in a secure location, same should go for these assault rifles, etc. we need a well regulated militia which means we don’t get to keep weapons unlocked in our homes willy nilly

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      The term ‘arms’ also refers to nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons. Where’s my McNuke, McAnthrax, McSarin?

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    I used to be lukewarm on the issue of gun control, ya know… “Yes, it’s a tragedy… but, we’ve got a second amendment, just increase security in schools or something.”

    But… eventually it got to the point where I realized I felt nothing hearing about the dead kids and the constant shootings. I was just completely numb to it, and that’s when I realized “Oh shit…”

    When I found that the death of children wasn’t something that even made me flinch anymore, I realized… That even if we have to destroy every gun in the West, something has to be done.

    “They’ll just use knives”

    And when you can kill as many people with a knife in as short of a time as an AR-15, that’s when I’ll give a shit about knives.

    PS: I totally call it the Assault Rifle 15. I know it’s the “Arma Rite 15” or whatever, but it pisses conservatives off when I get it wrong intentionally.

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      Knives are easier to defend. That’s why the gun was made. If it didn’t make warfare cheaper and quicker, they would have stayed with knives and swords.

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      One thing that really made it hit for me was when Australia had a mass knifing so bad the fucking pope commented on it and the numbers felt low for it to be such a tragedy of violence. It felt like it wouldn’t hit the state level news in America with a gun.

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      I’m torn on this issue. I want the sort of gun control that you’re describing, but I really don’t know if it would be constitutional, and defying the constitution is a slippery slope that could cause more harm than even gun violence. The problem in my view is the second amendment itself - it’s vague, outdated, and in desperate need of clarification. The fact that it deals with possession of technology but hasn’t been updated in 250 years is insane.

      I’m with anyone calling for gun control, but we really ought to be demanding constitutional revision to address this issue.

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      It’s really fun to call it an “assault weapon”. That pops them off to an astonishing degree.

      we’ve got a second amendment

      Which very clearly states itself as being relevant to citizen militias, and somehow says nothing about a fundamental right to murder children in large numbers.

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        I actually does if you know the historical subtext. Militias weren’t actually considered a significant check on federal power, they were encouraged so slave states could put down slave rebellions and frontier areas could gradually conquer land from the natives.

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          In Federalist No. 46, Madison wrote how a federal army could be kept in check by the militia, “a standing army … would be opposed [by] militia.” He argued that State governments “would be able to repel the danger” of a federal army

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          Militias weren’t actually considered a significant check on federal power

          It was specifically written at a time when all states’ militias combined totaled about 500,000 men and it was being proposed to limit the federal troops to 16,000 men. So it most certainly would have been a significant check on federal power.

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            And they had just got done fighting a war where the militias were basically useless, except for the Swamp Fox, who used them in the only way they can be effective, as terrorists.

            The actual war plans were always to turn militia into regulars, as seen in the Civil War when you had a similar situation.

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          Exactly. It was Written CENTURIES ago so we NEED to talk about it in Context! But ALSO they TOTALLY were Referring to Weapons we have TODAY!

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      But also you were lukewarm and other people are now because someone who is making millions and is spending millions on lobbying so that children continue to be killed so that they keep making millions. Even though the additional millions they’ll make won’t change their net worth by any significant amount…

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    I’m sure Fox News is already spinning it out of context as “Tim Walz is sick and tired of prayer and is planning on banning public & private prayer!”

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    I don’t know if anyone needed a harmless (slightly dark) laugh on the subject, but I recently played an indie PnC game called “3 Minutes to Midnight” with a joke around this. You open a wall medical kit, and there are sheets of paper inside, which read “Thoughts and prayers”.

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    no better indicator that prayer doesn’t work then the fact that there’s a new school shooting almost every day after republicans do a new thoughts and prayers.

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      I don’t think they believe it works.

      I think they just believe that shootings are bound to happen, because why else would they be happening on such a regular basis?

      It’s the constant deflection of responsibility, from our choices as a society, to some indeterminate outside force.

      Poverty and increasing cost of living? It’s all those darn immigrants.

      Your job not paying you enough? Must be overseas industry.

      They don’t think their prayers will prevent a school shooting, they just don’t think there’s other options to prevent it that will actually work without “taking away their freedom” (-to own a gun that’s more likely to harm them than protect them)

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        It’s just so evil, do they think we are dumb and can’t just look up how other countries with better gun control are doing? What do they say when they are asked about that?

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          do they think we are dumb and can’t just look up how other countries with better gun control are doing?

          They think we are lazy and won’t do that. And they’re largely right.

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      No see, if we have bible studies in school, that would turn all the bad students good because teenagers are known for being very receptive to religion. Just ask Reddit!

      (I’m being sarcastic as fuck)

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      Survivor bias. Republicans think “thoughts and prayers” are protecting their own kids. They don’t give a shit about other kids they don’t know.

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        Worse, they don’t actually think it works. They just care about the NRA’s blood money more than the lives of your children. THEIR children are in private schools with procedures in place to prevent this from happening.

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      God, if only that’s how it worked when I was a kid.

      I was totally that guy who was “just kidding” and “just thinking aloud” about what it’d be like to be a girl… but… like “Not really, cause I’m totally a straight dude. I just wanna grab my own tiddies.”

      Now I’m a woman, and I just grabbed my own tiddies for fun.

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      I have relatives that I shit you not fear this and believe it is 100% real. It’s so extremely fucking stupid

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        Any sane parent would worry about their kid getting killed a lot more than about them suddenly transitioning to another gender even if both of those were real things that actually happen.

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            My family’s local religious leader fortunately took my parents aside one day to ask them exactly that. It was the start of a major turn around in my relationship with them, and I’ll never not be grateful that he did that.

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          They would rather tier kids have a good clean Christian death (being shot by someone mentally ill while attending school) than live a corrupted life (of not using the pronouns we gave them).

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    Oh Tim, there’s nothing that can be done!

    Now where did I put my AR-14 tie pin so I can stand in solidarity with the real victims…

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    I think everyone sick of being in this time loop of the same result happening over and over. Action is the only solution.

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        Restrictive gun laws and ban shit. Fuck 2A and all the assholes screaming about them. If people are consistently proving they are not responsible enough for what the constitution affords them, fuck the constitution. It needs revising.

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          Restrictive gun laws and ban shit.

          I don’t have the power to do this. Only the politicians owned and operated by the gun lobby have this power, and they’ve been moving us in reverse.

          Fuck 2A and all the assholes screaming about them.

          I don’t think shoving my dick through a hole in the 2nd Amendment is going to do anything to reduce gun crime. I certainly don’t think trying to shove my dick into a guy screaming about 2A rights is going to fix things.

          fuck the constitution. It needs revising.

          It is very difficult to redefine the Constitution via legal channels. Especially if you’re just some angry internet guy. You’d need enormous sums of money, a willing media, and a political class that responds to social pressure.

          And even when guys like Mike Bloomberg enjoyed most of that, they failed to achieve more than local reforms thanks to the aggressive partisan pushback from conservatives in his old party.

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            Until a politician grows a pair nothing is going to change. I hear what you’re saying outside of the tongue in cheek and it’s such a mess. America has systemic issues which are by and large a result of what the system was designed to do.

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              Until a politician grows a pair nothing is going to change.

              Trump took a bullet wound to the ear and he’s still saying the same old stupid bullshit.

              I don’t think this is a question of growing a pair. The economic and social incentives to stay the course are simply overwhelming.

              America has systemic issues which are by and large a result of what the system was designed to do.

              And systems like this are resilient, intransigent, and self-perpetuating.

              The slavish devotion to our gun policy is like a contagious mental illness.

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    Gray, 14, used a riffle to kill the victims in the hallway outside his algebra class. He will be tried as an adult. His [sic]

    I hate the terrible proofreading/editing of online articles.