This aged well.
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me learning i have the power to split an entire party by making a post on literally the most niche tiny and on-the-ground inactive community on the internet 🤯🤯🤯
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I’ve already apologized here, but I’ll do it again. I’m sorry. I was wrong. I didn’t think there was enough time to generate the support needed. I’m really impressed by Kamala’s campaign effectiveness.
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You want an apology from having internet discussions relating to uncharted political waters? Why?
i dont want anything <3
I was wrong, and happy to be so now.
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I apologize. I was still, am still, very discomforted at the stakes riding on this election, and what it’ll mean to future female candidates if both female nominations get trump presidential terms.
But I always look ahead with hope
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Raise your hand if you were called a Russian bot for daring to question Biden
I guess the Russian bots are downvoting you.
I got so much shit on Lemmy for saying Biden should drop after his debate. Was literally called a Russian bot multiple times.
I mean we should be questioning Trump’s aptitude every chance we get for the same reasons they were doing it - it makes him look weak, it generates more discussion and therefore more doubt, and it drives down voter enthusiasm.
The reason nobody questions Trump is because there is no question. He is incompetent. Questioning it like questioning if the sky is blue. The only people who don’t know he is incompetent are those who have lost all touch with reality. There is no swaying them because simple things like facts mean nothing to them so what is the point of continuing to shout the same things that every remotionally rational person already knows.
At least arguing about biden can lead to some actual change as we can see by the fact he isn’t running anymore. We can’t change the republicans but we can make the democrat party better so hopefully they can win.
Questioning him in public forums felt like it would’ve helped that very bad man. I’m glad the Joenors applied pressure - that’s very appropriate, e.g. donors calling out that garbage debate behind closed doors.
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There’s still plenty of time for you to become a Russian bot. Never give up on your dreams!
Over and fucking over again.
Crust, that was pathetic low bar dismissal.
my hand fucking shattered against the ceiling after reading this comment
Russian bot is the new Godwin’s Law. Nazis are common now and easy to spot. But even a leftist argument that’s arguably suboptimal will be interpreted as a Russian bot.
Well Russian bots were spreading the same rhetoric since they were trying to undermine Biden’s campaign in order to get their Russian asset to win.
Just glad those bots helped the Democrats in the long run even if they didn’t mean it. It has been a lot more quiet from those fronts since the change.
It’s the equivalent of people walking by a bunch of Russians beating a politician in the street and jumping in to help them acting like you were doing it for a better candidate… That nobody know who one was… When nobody even ran against the candidate… The parting yourself on the back when some MUST step in them patting yourself on the back because we lucked the fuck out and Democratic Leadership actually nutted up including having the guy that got his ass beat basically give up because he was battered.
yeah for sure the russian bots were pushing rhetoric that would replace literally the worst possible candidate to beat trump with someone better. that’s totally real and a strategy that was happening.
Right… Because Trump definitely didn’t want to go up against Biden so much that he begs for him back. Still gonna just excuse yourself by imagining it was bots cause it’s easier than questioning your warped view of reality. I get it.
Not quiet cause the Democrats and left that wanted the change got it and therefore didn’t need to keep raising the point against dismissal and denial… Sure.
lol my favorite were those hiding behind Alan Lichtman… The guy who didn’t predict a winner at the time yet and whose pre-prediction endorsement in 2016 was Hillary before later saying she’d lose lol.
You should see some of my submissions of focus groups post-debate insta-downvoted lol.
My feeling right after the Biden-Trump debate was pretty much the same as my feeling after the Harris-Trump debate: I do not understand what the American electorate wants, and I can’t predict their behavior. I was horrified by Biden’s performance, but I couldn’t say if that would matter. I was really pleased with Harris’ performance, and I’m glad that it seems to be pushing things in the right direction, but by Odin’s beard I cannot fathom how Trump could have a political career at all, let alone what it will take to really change the minds of anyone who is still undecided at this point. I’ll take what I can get, but I can’t predict the mental workings of undecided voters in Arizona, Georgia, or Wisconsin.
I’m positive I didn’t yell at you but we should listen to you more often is my take.
as we all know i am the only correct person on this site
I was saying that before he dropped, I was wrong, you were right. Brilliant even. This has been not only the right move, but a huge shot in the arm for voter turnout and engagement. We would have lost this if everyone listened to me. I’ll be more open minded going forward. Thank you.
Reminder that anything that currently makes you feel happy and content in saving american democracy is likely a conservative psy-op designed to keep you home on voting day.
Remain scared citizen, remain frantic until after voting day. Feel free to relax afterwards.
You need people engaged and energized to show up to vote. Optimism is unfortunately a huge help in every case.
thank you, it’s good to be heard and acknowledged for once :)
I’ll take the L.
I legitimately thought there’d be no way for them to be able to campaign enough in just a few months and I’ll gladly admit I was wrong.
From an external viewpoint, how the fuck can it cost so much to run one campaign. Even in the uk, we are legally capped at 19 million pounds.
Because our country is ran by oligarchs. Money is god here and if you don’t worship the almighty dollar you’re probably gonna have a bad time.
Well so is ours
Some of your oligarchs were taught what happens when the serfs revolt, and don’t want beheading to become the national past time again
true. Doesn’t excuse the fact that some families have estates literally traceable over 900 years back. And any protest we muster wil be stopped by the rain nowdays.
Take a look at your police force and healthcare and say that again.
At least your oligarchs have some empathy. Over here they’ll kill you for $5.
Well they just refuse to invest. Take the examples you gave:
- We have healthcare, but there is a hospital in which obese patients cannot go on one of the floors because it will collapse.
- The police are well meaning but we cannot fit criminals in prison and have to release them early.
sorry for the L, but i think we’re both glad you’re taking it :)
She’s hasn’t won yet.
Kamala Harris hasn’t won, no. But I think she’s already achieved enough momentum that if she loses, it will be safe to say that Joe Biden would have also lost.
That’s a reasonable assumption, but just because it’s reasonable doesn’t mean it’s true.
I mean, literally all of the common reasons to not vote for Biden are gone.
Jokes on you, everyone still hates me because I wanted a primary because I knew Harris would ignore my base requirement of preventing genocide.
Also because she’s still pretty suboptimal compared to other candidates imo.
i agree with you on paragraph 1, ngl
2nd par depends on what metrics “optimal” describes, but generally, sure :)
