Shipping coal from WV to China creates more pollution than just burning it in WV.
Isn’t this exactly what Harris is trying to do though?
Vice President Kamala Harris said in Tuesday’s debate that the Biden-Harris administration has overseen “the largest increase in domestic oil production in history because of an approach that recognizes that we cannot over rely on foreign oil.″
Seems like the right thing to do - reduce global pollution in the short term by burning the stuff locally at first, while long term pushing for greener sources. Or am I missing something?
entice producers in other countries to step in, as many did in the months after Russia’s invasion.
Basically, even if the US alone dropped to zero, expect global production to boom as other places chip in to fill the gap.
Going green at home is a good goal, but what makes climate change so hard to solve is that we have to go green globally, or one bad actor (say for example, Russia) could ruin the party for everyone, so to speak.
Climate change is a global issue.
And Biden broke fossil fuel production records trump set. And Harris passed the deciding vote to expand domestic fracking.
So give them credit for the bare minimum local things they do. Fine
But we need to demand they stop fucking up on the major parts
Shipping coal from WV to China creates more pollution than just burning it in WV.
Isn’t this exactly what Harris is trying to do though?
Source: https://apnews.com/article/harris-fracking-energy-climate-trump-election-debate-1b86dfb4297facd0b89c487724a9e5b0
Seems like the right thing to do - reduce global pollution in the short term by burning the stuff locally at first, while long term pushing for greener sources. Or am I missing something?
The first 2 months of US supplied bombs bombing Gaza had the same environmental impact as burning 150k tons of coal.
Interesting way to frame “the line that has always trended upwards continued to go upwards”
I usually hate graphs that dont start the y at zero, and it would be better if it did, but here’s the first I found
https://www.vox.com/climate/24098983/biden-oil-production-climate-fossil-fuel-renewables
It skyrocketed under trump, and then again under Biden.
But like, you’re acting like this is just some personal grip I have…
https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-BIDEN/OIL/lgpdngrgkpo/
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/12/us-producing-more-oil-climate-change/676893/
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/how-u-s-oil-production-reached-an-all-time-high-in-2023
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/jul/26/kamala-harris/fact-checking-kamala-harris-on-energy-production-i/
But I think setting a new record for high temps year after year after year is a good analogy.
Does it suck that it’s still happening?
Yes.
But that sure as fuck doesn’t mean a 10 degree increase is the same as a 0.1 degree increase in average temps over the span of a year.
Like. How can you act that magnitude isn’t important at all?
Ah, this is a good point. From The Atlantic,
Basically, even if the US alone dropped to zero, expect global production to boom as other places chip in to fill the gap.
Going green at home is a good goal, but what makes climate change so hard to solve is that we have to go green globally, or one bad actor (say for example, Russia) could ruin the party for everyone, so to speak.