Is gen z intentionally refusing to change their behavior for work, or what is the reason for this?
Kind of think it’s cool that they remain themselves.
Companies these days don’t want to pay!
Fire the bosses. Bootlicking chuds, the lot of them.
Slaves don’t want to work… Let me pay for fake news to run article about my poor management skills haha
HR and management failures being advertised as propaganda?
These clowns losing their grip on society lol
Honestly this is a extremely valid point.
If an entire generation isn’t conforming to the old way of doing things then the solution is for management and HR to adapt. Their failure to adapt management styles that worked with previous generations isn’t the fault of new generations.
Part of being a professional is the willingness and drive to constantly update your toolkit to new and emerging industry trends and we can’t pretend like generational shifts don’t count.
I work in engineering in a college town–we hire a ton of interns and co-op students. In terms of Gen Z, some of them mess up a few of the “protocol” things (for example, we had one guy who wore cargo shorts one day when it got hot in the summer). But the vast majority of them are more than fine when we give them direction, and are great employees overall. In fact, percentage-wise, I’d say more of them have better work ethic than most of the boomers who refuse to retire (no, Richard, scheduling twelve meetings back-to-back isn’t “productive,” it’s a waste of everyone’s time). They’ll boast about working overtime, but 80% of their day they’re shooting the shit and producing nothing.
Makes sense. Younger employees tend to have more energy to do things, while older ones are getting comfortable after working for so many years.
Paywall, here’s a specific excerpt when you get past the clickbait bullshit:
So where is it going wrong for fresh-faced graduates?
Employers’ gripe with young people today is their lack of motivation or initiative—50% of the leaders surveyed cited that as the reason why things didn’t work out with their new hire.
Bosses also pointed to Gen Z being unprofessional, unorganized, and having poor communication skills as their top reasons for having to sack grads.
Leaders say they have struggled with the latest generation’s tangible challenges, including being late to work and meetings often, not wearing office-appropriate clothing, and using language appropriate for the workspace.
Now more than half of hiring managers have come to the conclusion that college grads are unprepared for the world of work. Meanwhile, over 20% say they can’t handle the workload.
In reality, colleges know that their students are wholly unprepared for the workforce, and some have started stepping up to fill the gap.
For example, Michigan State University is teaching students how to handle a networking conversation, including how to look for signs that the other party is starting to get bored and that it’s time to move on.
Meanwhile, a high school in London is trialing a 12-hour school day to prepare pupils for adult life.
Want to be more hirable? Attitude is everything When asked what would make college grads more hirable, bosses responded: a positive attitude and more initiative.
Intelligent’s chief education and career development advisor, Huy Nguyen, advises Gen Z grads to observe how other workers interact to understand the company culture at any new firm they may join. From there, it’s easier to gauge what’s an appropriate way of engaging with others.
“Take the initiative to ask thoughtful questions, seek feedback, and apply it to show your motivation for personal growth,” Nguyen adds. “Build a reputation for dependability by maintaining a positive attitude, meeting deadlines, and volunteering for projects, even those outside your immediate responsibilities.”
Amazon CEO Andy Jassy recently echoed that an “embarrassing” amount of your success in your twenties depends on your attitude—and the reason why is simple: Managers would rather work with positive people.
Some leaders have even insisted that a can-do attitude at work will advance young workers’ careers more than a college degree.
Richard Branson, the billionaire founder of Virgin, has repeatedly urged young people to ditch university in favor of the “school of life.”
Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg recently claimed that raw talent and personality trump credentials.
To that end, Cisco’s top executive in the U.K., David Meads, dropped out of school at 16 years old. He told Fortune that “attitude and aptitude are more important than whatever letters you have after your name, or whatever qualifications you’ve got on a sheet.”
As an older millennial, I heard this same shit about millennials. Just typical boomer talk.
ever since I don’t ever skip a beat to dunk to clown Boomers … Disgusting bootlickers get no respect
And what did David Meads’s parents do for a living? I do not trust the “drop out of school” message from anyone unless I know their background.
Don’t listen to CEOs. Hell, don’t even work for them if you can possibly avoid it. These days being self-employed is where it’s at. I have a desk job at a small office, and I considered myself well enough paid - but a friend literally walks dogs and owns their home while I just rent.
I couldn’t agree more, fuck em. I’ll take the authenticity over corporate drone any day. Besides that, the real issue is that higher level managers want what’s comfortable for them during uncomfortable times. Hustle culture is dead, and they can just shut down the business. A great customer experience comes from a great employee experience.
If some Gen z folks need cover for working normal hours and in comfy clothing come to me. I’ve stopped playing that stupid game years ago but I’m experienced enough that they don’t try to force it on me anymore. You can hide behind my back, we’ll let those ghouls starve.
a high school in London is trialing a 12-hour school day to prepare pupils for adult life.
More like prepare students for literal, actual slavery under capitalism. Bullshit like this is why the younger generations don’t want to work. We are absolutely not lazy we just don’t want to work in world that treats us like our only purpose in existence is to work to ourselves death sucking off all the rich fucking cunts just so we still can’t pay rent or buy food.
We really need to bring back the guillotine before it’s too late.
I agree with you, absolutely. But if you take a job with other people all that stuff they said applies. If you show up late, mope about your work load and don’t pay attention- fuck you Jack, don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
*apologies, I didn’t realize this was a ‘bitch about being a shitty worker’ thread. You realize in a communist society you have to pull your weight too?
You realize in a communist society you have to pull your weight too?
This is a desired thing so long as it also means actually living, not just existing
Thank you, I didn’t get the paywall myself so didn’t know. Maybe it’s not blocked in Europe or something.
I never link to paywalled stuff otherwise.
12-hour school day
wtf
Meanwhile, a high school in London is trialing a 12-hour school day to prepare pupils for adult life.
I bet I can guess which school this is in one try - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michaela_Community_School
Hearing the headmistress talk about her attitudes to kids and their education (and indoctrination) is stomach churning.
So basically quit wanting to get paid for extra work. Also: Stop having something besides your job to live for.
alternate title: “Bosses frustrated that Gen-Z hires aren’t interested in becoming good little drones.”
Z Aint readin’ n won’t read ya bootlickin’ article fortune.com.
