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    Photoshop cs2 is free to download and probably works well on wine as its old as hell.

    Edit: Correction. You used to o be able to download cs2 from adobe website. This is no longer the case.

    GIMP has always been able to do what I needed more or less. Its got a learning curve and sometimes I still dont 100% how something works but for basic photo editing, meme making, and converting photos to different file types (why is .webp not universally supported yet?) Its pretty good.

    When theres a problem doing something in GIMP it always felt like the issue was my own understanding of the toolset conbined with not-great documentation being given. I never felt like I encountered the limits of the program itself.

    I’m sure if you are a professional graphics person who needs advanced tools theres things only PS can provide and its user interface is probably more friendly. But for me, the average joe schmo, GIMP gets the job done 95% of the time with little to no headache.

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      Some people do overestimate how much of the software they’re actually using, and how far back some features go. I learned the little PS I know using a 7.0 license my father bought, I used it for years doing 2D graphics and web “design”, and still basically still have the same workflow with minor differences to avoid destructive changes.

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    Ooooor, go to photopea. Dont need to download anything but just open a browser

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          All we need to do is build a similar setup and then find a guitar and a CRT and see what happens

          Edit: actually, I’ve got a guitar and a CRT and maybe half of the pieces there. The big thing I’m concerned about is destroying the CRT. I have no idea how sensitive CRTs are or how much power is coming from a guitar.

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            I have no idea if it would work, but I do have a spare CRT monitor if you blow yours up.

            Maybe look into a direct box? I had to use one when recording to change the ohms between the instrument & the usb interface in the tower.

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              I’ll take a look at it. The CRT is a bit sentimental to me (it’s the same model as the one my first PC had, managed to find one on eBay in good condition after like, a year of searching) which is why I’m concerned about blowing it up. However, I might see if any electronics recycling places in my area have a shitty, beat-up CRT TV they’d be willing to part with. That said, I discovered recently that most of the remaining recycling places in my area are run by computer enthusiasts and tend to sell or hold onto anything with any value like CRTs though, so wish me luck.

              Kinda genius really. Into old PCs but don’t wanna pay eBay prices for them? Become an electronics recycler and then people will pay you to take their old SGI workstations and Sony BVMs.

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                The only way you’ll blow your CRT is if you tried to plug that dongle monstrosity into the speaker output of a power amp haha, guitars have a high impedance signal. Direct boxes actually lower the impedance, so that definitely won’t help make your output safer. (Still safe) So I say go for it directly from the guitar, the worst that can happen is nothing, (which is likely) which probably means you actually do need to lower the impedance with a direct box. (Which I still doubt would work but who knows) An amp with a line out or a digital pedal board would be the most likely options for actually getting sound through.

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                  Do you know what the tolerances are on connectors like VGA, coax, and bnc? My monitor has VGA and BNC, so BNC might be easier to use (fewer intermediate steps, more control due to separate sockets for sync, r/g/b, etc). I’m curious if you might know how high the voltage can go before I run the risk of frying something.

                  Also, my guitar is an acoustic-electric with a preamp, which would probably make a difference.

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    Hah, we used to have some of those AUI to 10Base2 transducers back in the day in the office. Definitely had one on the IBM RS6000/220 box.

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        I mean you’re not a ‘pro retoucher’ if you require adobe to do your job, you’re simply an adobe user.

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            Popularity alone doesn’t make it good (see ms windows) and yet it is still what professionals use because it’s popular.

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              Going to be honest here

              Windows is good for general professional use. Linux is absolutely terrible. MacOS is also decent.

              Professionals use windows because everyone knows how it functions, it has robust and supported user management and Microsoft provides significant enterprise support to companies using their operating system.

              Linux only has some of those features, they’re often half-assed or unsupported, and there’s no central authority for help.

              It’s fine for personal machines, but I absolutely disagree that the only thing windows has going for it is popularity.

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                What makes Linux terrible in your eyes?

                Professional programmers use Linux too.

                Windows is extremely unstable compared to my Linux experience. (Unless it no longer bsods regularly) I have had two kernel panics on my Linux installation total. (For comparison the Windows laptop I used to own crashed multiple times a month)

                Also I was thinking more of individuals doing work rather than in a large environment, so that might make a difference though the little management software I’ve seen for Windows was pretty disappointing.

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      Krita is a different kind of tool used for drawing, but still really good. I don’t even know the adobe way to do this lol.

      Gimp would be image post processing software like photoshop is. Also Inkscape is a vector graphics software like adobe illustrator.

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        Oh you wanna do a pdf? Use Libreoffice and export as pdf. Krita is a open source alternative to photoshop as is gimp. Gimp has came a long way and is a functional replacement for photoshop these days without all the ugly AI stuff.

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            I think I read that but I’ve never tried. I mostly use gimp for image format conversion. My daughter on the other hand can make both Krita and Gimp do all kinds of tricks.

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              It opens each page as a layer, which makes sense to me but I’m not sure it’s what you’d expect.

              I also do really like finding proud parents on Lemmy btw :3

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    Gimp sucks.

    And ps works with wine if you have it on windows already and drag over some system32 dlls

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      I’ve been using Gimp for simple things, and it’s been OK once I realized that whatever I want to do, I should look it up first instead of just trying to figure it out through trial and error.

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      Gimp used to suck. Gimp 3 is amazing. Krita is great. Inkscape is OK.

      Having all three requires less space than Photoshop and Illustrator and covers about every feature of both.

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        Granted i havent tried gimp 3. Ill have to give it a try. But im so fast with ps. And i hate how each program needs to have their own control schemes to differentiate.

        I just dont get why people hate photoshop to the point of being unhelpful when people ask how to get it working. Especially when many people are pirating it anyways.

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          you shouldn’t waste any time or energy on an adobe product. and if you think that advice is unhelpful then you literally can’t be helped.

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          It takes a while getting used to anything. Gimp does have a Photoshop keyboard shortcut preset, to ease you into it.

          And gimp does have some parts that are better. For example importing a bunch of images and lining them up on a spritesheet is both faster and easier on Gimp. And both Photoshop and gimp have scripts to do this, but I was never able to get the Photoshop script to work.

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        Gimp 3 is amazing.

        Found the time traveler!

        (The stable version of Gimp is 2.10.38, and even the latest dev snapshot – which is what I assume he means by “Gimp 3” – is technically “only” 2.99.18.)

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          I believe it’s a gimp 3 pre release (and the final one too). Works great for me though it still has some occasional crashes on my wayland setup.

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        The problem that arises is that you have to remember three different UIs and run them all simultaneously which I’ve measured use up more RAM, which sometimes reduces my efficency and increases my system resources more, instead of using the shit UI of Photoshop that the whole world decided to accept as the defacto standard to duplicate

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          It is all keyboard shortcuts, though, and you can configure them to all use the same ones. I believe they have a “Photoshop-like” preset you can select too.

          About the RAM, I’m not sure what can be done. I guess it is a tradeoff. I’d probably go with more RAM consumption over Photoshop because I have a lot of RAM, but not everyone do. Considering the price of Photoshop if you didn’t pirate it, it would be cheaper to buy and install more RAM, though.

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      Gimp doesn’t suck as an image editor, it just sucks as a Photoshop clone, which it was never meant to be. It’s an amazing image editor.

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          Weird, when I start gimp it just speeds through a floating window with different inititialization steps that are all about the same duration (<2s for the whole thing to start though).