Maybe you guys ought to campaign to get the law changed. They used to be grey over here, but pressure was put on the government and how they’re all high vis yellow with loads of warnings before them.
I don’t want the law changed where I live, because these cameras are prohibited!
Several states in the USA prohibit speed cameras and traffic light cameras, because a citizen must be able to face their accuser when accused of a crime. This is a great example of freedom in the USA, where we do not let machines automatically issue fines against human beings.
The government would be the accuser?? Just because a camera is used for evidence doesn’t make the camera THE accuser. Civilized nations have a way to fight the camera-issued fine, for example if the photo doesn’t show your face.
how about just not ripping off people for doing 37 in a 35?
If the penalty for a crime is a fine, then that law only exists for the lower class. if it were a percentage of your annual income, completely different story.
Over here if you’re just a bit over they’ll normally put you on a speed awareness course for the first time getting caught.
And I 100% agree on fines being income based. I think some of the Scandinavian countries have done that. I also think there needs to be some kind of catch for the super rich who work the system so they don’t really declare an income. Maybe if your net worth is x times the national average the fine is the greater of either a percentage of your net worth or income.
Riiighhtt because you’re sooo busy and soooo important to your job that you can’t take a morning off. Speed awareness course is like 4 hours and you can do over video call. Get a fucking grip.
Or, if you are genuinely so important and busy you must be paid a bomb, so just pay the fine, take the points, pay the bit extra on insurance. Job done.
Or, here’s an idea. Don’t break the mother fucking law in the first place.
Maybe you guys ought to campaign to get the law changed. They used to be grey over here, but pressure was put on the government and how they’re all high vis yellow with loads of warnings before them.
I don’t want the law changed where I live, because these cameras are prohibited!
Several states in the USA prohibit speed cameras and traffic light cameras, because a citizen must be able to face their accuser when accused of a crime. This is a great example of freedom in the USA, where we do not let machines automatically issue fines against human beings.
The government would be the accuser?? Just because a camera is used for evidence doesn’t make the camera THE accuser. Civilized nations have a way to fight the camera-issued fine, for example if the photo doesn’t show your face.
UK is not civilised in this case. Cameras usually photograph back of a car here.
how about just not ripping off people for doing 37 in a 35?
If the penalty for a crime is a fine, then that law only exists for the lower class. if it were a percentage of your annual income, completely different story.
Over here if you’re just a bit over they’ll normally put you on a speed awareness course for the first time getting caught.
And I 100% agree on fines being income based. I think some of the Scandinavian countries have done that. I also think there needs to be some kind of catch for the super rich who work the system so they don’t really declare an income. Maybe if your net worth is x times the national average the fine is the greater of either a percentage of your net worth or income.
And how am I supposed to attend a speed awareness course while working over 40 hours a week?
“hi boss I need to take a half day holiday on X date, I have to attend a speed awareness course”
"Hey bob, can I swap a shift with you on X date, I’ll work your X Saturday. I’ve got to attend a speed awareness course "
Or if you’re to chicken to tell the truth replace with dentist. Or just throw a sickie.
It’s hardly rocket science.
My work is not like that. Not all jobs do sick days. If I miss a day I delay a project and have to kill myself getting it back on track.
Riiighhtt because you’re sooo busy and soooo important to your job that you can’t take a morning off. Speed awareness course is like 4 hours and you can do over video call. Get a fucking grip.
Or, if you are genuinely so important and busy you must be paid a bomb, so just pay the fine, take the points, pay the bit extra on insurance. Job done.
Or, here’s an idea. Don’t break the mother fucking law in the first place.