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        Minitel launched in 1982, well after work had begun on interconnections between different computer networks, using the predecessor protocols to TCP/IP and what would become the addressing/domain name system. Minitel launched on protocols that were ultimately incompatible with the rest of the Internet, and didn’t have an easy way to actually get joined in.

        Minitel was more of an alternative internet than it was the inspiration for the migration of the internet to becoming a HTTP/www-centered network.

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    I’ve heard it called “US Defaultism” where most Americans online seem to assume that everyone they interact with is from their country and all US news is considered significant even when it really isn’t.

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      Imagine if different fonts represented different accents.

      𝓗𝓸𝔀 𝓭𝓸 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓭𝓸𝓸𝓸𝓸𝓸𝓸𝓸?

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      I’ve been guilty of that- commenting before checking what community the post was in. Thankfully, I’ve found that most people outside of the US prefer gentle correction. Unfortunately, I doubt the average person from the US would show the same courtesy if the roles were reversed.

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        I find that it correlates more with education status than nationality… but therefore it surely is more rare among the set of average Americans who have access to the internet than globally.

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          … the average Westerner also has access to the internet? At most, maybe it excludes those who don’t speak English

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      Counterpoint: I rarely see non-US news posted. I do from time to time here on Lemmy, but it’s very rare.

      I might just be in the wrong communities though.

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        The community [email protected] used to have it in their rules, that it must be US news, same as on the old site. I just looked, and it’s no longer a rule on lemmy.world

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        That’s because most of the world countries keep internal news, internal, but you’re right tho, not enough representation makes people think like that

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          I do lean moee towards us defaultism being the case as other country news does get posted but has zero to none interaction because the us posts threads are getting so much more activity.

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            Outside Lemmy I use Apple News and what I kind of hate about it is even while traveling abroad you’re stuck with US news. I have both English and Spanish languages set up on iOS so being in a Spanish-speaking country, it would be nice to see local news in either language.

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              Wish we had Apple News :(

              I generally avoid news of late of any kind as its just so bloated and every once a week or so just visit one of my local sites for a quick scroll.

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    Howdy y’all bros. My name is Todd Bonzalez and I am from one of the great American places foreigners know from your TV shows.

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    I completely understand the sentiment.

    I also understand the sentiment that the internet is effectively a US invention dating back at least to ARPAnet.

    I guess what I’m suggesting is: can’t we all just get along? At least we can now all communicate with each other.

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      The World Wide Web is not an American invention. Who invented what is completely irrelevant in this context anyway though.

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      I also understand the sentiment that the internet is effectively a US invention dating back at least to ARPAnet.

      Yeah, but this is a website. Sir Tim Berners-Lee represent!

      Plus also, English is an English invention.

      But otherwise, you’re good.

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      We are trying to get along. We are already speaking English, which is a massive step in your direction. US commenters and posters don’t even bother to convert to kilometres or something. Or the worst: write about something that happened in AK as if everyone knows postal shortages of the US.

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        The crazy irony is that those from outside the US probably know way more than those in the US, in terms of stories about Alaska.

        No hate here. There will be ups and downs.

        At the end of the day, I’m happy to communicate with you.

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        If it makes it any better youre more likely to get an American who can convert Miles into Leagues before they even think about kilometers. We dont really use metric for anything, unless youre military or something.

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        Don’t ever talk about kilometres in here. Are you trying to spark an international incident?

        FWIW ich habe Deustch gelernt. Aber ich habe die meistens vergessen 😔

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    As someone outside the U.S., what is your default persona for anonymous/pseudonymous users until you know more about them? Just curious. Like, if you don’t have any information about them, do you read the words in the voice of a person just like you?

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      I don’t read words in any voice other than the naturally subvocalisation that occurs when I’m reading, which is always in my voice.

      Even when I read a quote myself Morgan Freeman, I’m hearing my voice, doing a Morgan freeman impression.

      But in terms of who I picture? Nothing, people online are not even corporal beings to me until details are revealed. They are still human and have whole lives offline so that’s not an excuse to be needlessly rude, but I know nothing of them so why would I randomly invent details unless I’m doing so as a “put myself in their shoes” thought experiment.

      But then I have a degree of aphantasia so I’m not “picturing” anything, all I have is words anyway, so it’s easy not to add in extra words that change my assumptions about a person.

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    I hear you and am guilty of it myself. I feel like it’s due to the anonymous nature of the internet. I think everyone immediately falls into the category of “peer” before putting a touch more thought into who the actual person (bot/ai) is that wrote the reply. Add that to the fact that most Americans see themselves (as a country) as the king of the world.

    Maybe you can try typing with an accent, but I think that’d probably just be seen as a racist American.

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    I’m from Australia and don’t mind engagement with the (mostly) US content.

    Let’s face it, the US election is the most interesting event on the planet anyway.

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      Glad everyone else is enjoying the show at least. Half of us here are terrified we’re about to lose the country to maniacal egotists with a penchant for a bit of racism and monarchy.

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        As a Canadian, we’re feeling it too. I’m sure it’s not as significant as what you’re all feeling.

        It’s weird having a half deranged megalomaniacal neighbor, where they’re fine most of the time then occasionally go completely off the rails.

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          I’ve often wondered how concerned ya’ll might be. Sorry about the mess. For whatever it is worth, a lot of us are trying to clean it up.

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            We’re hoping that happens, and you don’t get stonewalled by idiots. We’re cheering for your efforts.

            To be fair, we have our own share of problems, including, but not limited to, hardline conservatives pulling similar crap, and even the odd Canadian Trump supporters, which always confused me.

            We’re coping okay. Hopefully it doesn’t get any worse.

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              Trump supporters outside the us are the absolute weirdest anamoly to me. I barely get why some Americans like him. But seeing avid support for him elsewhere just blows my mind. Good luck though! Rooting for you guys too!

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      I just wish Americans would have a little self awareness when engaging in foreign content.

      I was in a comment thread for a video on a report by the ABC about ADEs. Now I will give Americans the benefit of the doubt, we both have ABC networks, but ours clearly says “Australia”, the news presenter has a Australian accent, and was talking about the Australian minimum wage, there were references to Centrelink and the Australian government repeatedly. If you watched the video and couldn’t tell me what country the video was about, you need to go back to primary school, your media comprehension level is dysfunctional .

      I mentioned a clarifying point in the the comments about ADE being different from DES and giving numbers for each (you don’t need to know anything about these acronyms), and someone starts arguing with me that when they were in the disability program they got xyz and they didn’t have to do any of this. I replied saying that these processes have been unchanged for 20 years, I don’t know how they’re getting what they’re getting, they have a unique case. They come back telling me everyone gets that, that’s how it is, I need to do my research before I make stuff up. I explain that I work in the sector, I’m looking at the cases software, if they are indeed getting those services through that program, they are the only one of 40,000 people in the program getting that, because that’s not how the service works. They tell me 15 million people people use the program. I finally realise what’s happening. “there are only 25 million people people in Australia…you’re a lost American aren’t you?” and sure enough ,they politely reply with “oh yeah, I’m not Australian so I don’t know, maybe it’s different over there”.

      And I just can’t with that level of American stupidity.

      You can came into an Australian forum and assumed I wasn’t Australian, assumed I wasn’t talking about Australia, then came to the conclusion that “maybe it’s different over there” when I had explicitly just informed you that ,yes, the law is different here.

      Now many times could I have used the acronym DES before the American thought to themselves “maybe this person isn’t talking about SSDI”.

      And this is just the example from the last hour. I end up in a lot of international PD sessions for my work, and something like this is a daily occurrence, only with the Americans.

      Canada, you are sadly not excused from this, nor sure why but it’s always "okay, where are we all from? “Australia” “Belgium” “Brazil” “Indonesia” “Fort Freedom” “Edmonton”

      Those are cities and provinces, clearly the rest of us are doing countries, some of us are big enough that we could name states if we wanted to, but we’re being polite, you’ve got 50 (10+3 🇨🇦 ) of them and we didn’t memorise a silly song in school to learn your states.

      The fact that I know how many states the US has and how many provinces and tertories Canada has, but an American would be stabbing in the dark to guess how many states and territories Australia has, even though our biggest state is 3x bigger than Texas and Australia as a whole is a comparable landmass to the contiguous 48.

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        And I just can’t with that level of American stupidity.

        Not just Americans, most people don’t read/watch the link

        The fact that I know how many states the US has and how many provinces and tertories Canada has, but an American would be stabbing in the dark

        Not surprising given our influence on your culture is far greater than the other way, landmass is worthless when it’s full of the Outback (a beautiful place for sure)

        And you’d be surprised how many of us know it’s 6, I bet. Californians get to play with you guys online if we stay up past our bedtimes, after all.

        The more fun part is going to be me trying to name them and see if I still can: Queensland, New South Whales, Western? Australia, Northern? Australia, Victoria (you already HAVE ONE NAMED AFTER THE QUEEN THOUGH), Tasmania? Is that one you guys?

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          This is a good point about cultural export, majority of modern content use American, and the majority of childhood content at least for me was Canadian.

          I’m often surprised how little I know of the UK compared to the USA when I think of how much is imported to Australia from the UK …including my family.

          Thank you so much for giving me your guesses at state names, we did make it easy for you with just a bunch of cardinal directions.

          You are bang on with 6 states, and almost bang on with their names.

          The place you’ve dubbed “Northern Australia” is the “Northern Territory” and is not a state, the state you are missing is South Australia.

          We have two major territories, Northern Territory as mentioned, but then similar to the USA, our national capital is not located within a state.

          Our capital city is in “The Australian Capital Territory”, or just “the ACT”

          We are super creative with the names. Hence why we named 2 after the Queen (then stupidly named the capital city of Victoria “Melbourne” instead of “Batmania”, which was totally an option on the table!) but also America can’t talk, how many important places have you named after Washington and Columbus?

          Tasmania is indeed ours, ours lonely Island state. Not so fun fact, Tasmanian Devils are endangered because they keeps biting each other’s faces off and giving each other contagious facial cancer.

          There’s another internal territory no one really talks about, Jarvis Bay, it was formed mostly so the ACT could have access to a port without needing to use a state’s port.

          We have 7 external territories, the main ones being the island territories of Norfolk, Cocos, and Christmas Islands.

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      Could not disagree more.

      It’s a pathetic state of affairs that people here care and know more about US politics than our own country’s, and I’m personally sick of it.

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    This is lemmy.world, you would have to join lemmy.{country} for lands beyond the fruited plains and purple mountains majesty.