Holy shit man. Pull your head out of your own ass. Walz did fine, its not a big deal. But JD Vance outperformed. If you don’t see it then you’re fucking blind and you’re ignoring even left-leaning papers like the WashPo.
Yes. That’s always the question the hard right and their apologists and the Enligtened Centrists ™ can never answer in any serious way and that question is - how can the news outlet of a huge MNC and/or controlled by an oligarch be, in any serious way, on the left?
These unserious people keep telling me that “well, everyone just knows” or quoting polls that poll the newsreaders or the stenographers for the elite and who they are registered for, not realizing we are talking about the help, not the owners. What the help wants or who they vote for doesn’t mean a fart in a high wind. It’s the owners that call the tune, FFS.
Oh I see, dispite it being owned by a BILIONAIRE who is opposed to any fundimental change in the status quo, this one website says they are left leaning so no need to consider anything they are left… FFS use your damn brain
All the polls this morning are that JD Vance outperformed this thing.
Actually, don’t cope. Turn on your fucking brain and see the threat for what it is. Pull your head out of your ass, strategize and make Kamala and Walz win in this upcoming election.
Lies about Walz performance last night do NOT help the cause.
More Americans like what JD Vance pulled last night on TV than you realize. That is the scope of the threat here.
I mean, am not arguing who did better, I will be honest I both did not watch it, and already voted.
As for what the threat is, I cannot see a significant difrence between Trump and Harris, and there is a real likelyhood Trump wins agian, but the cause for that is that the Dems keep lurching rightword and refuse to even consider trying to move to the left, so people stop approving of them and stop voting.
Agian I am not saying polls one way or the other, but the media fact check, no WatPo is right wing owned by a bilionare, the data they present may or may not be accurate on a case by case, and I would not be suprised if high approval was the turnout here.
I cannot see any significant diffrence between the two in what they will do or what they will say, I get stern faced conman facism or laughing facism, both are facism
Because they are losing the factual discussion with me here.
Polls from CBS and CNN confirm that JD Vance won the debate last night and that JD Vance is up huge in favorability.
They don’t like to see how unpopular liberal viewpoints really are. Or the reality of the American political system. But we need to push reality above all, we cannot afford to be complacent moving into this election.
MAGA uses it so suggest that every fact you throw at them is biased because an outlet may lean left, which the majority of the noteworthy ones do. My buddy is a maga guy and he even declares AP news and Reuters as liberal mainstream media.
Another popular tactic is to see who owns the company where the news is coming from. If there’s a single Democrat on the board of directors or anything like that, then the news is “tainted”
Can’t win. It’s also pointless giving them facts I’ve learned over the past 8 years.
Because the vast majority of “mainstream” news outlets are pro-corporate and pro-capitalism, making them center-right at best, yet they label them as left wing. The entire idea behind the site is Republican propaganda that was created to coerce the media into repeating their lies unquestioningly, lest they be labeled as “biased”.
This is a fucking Washington Post screenshot.
Holy shit man. Pull your head out of your own ass. Walz did fine, its not a big deal. But JD Vance outperformed. If you don’t see it then you’re fucking blind and you’re ignoring even left-leaning papers like the WashPo.
JD Vance out preformed! Cause I say so!
WashPo, CBS and CNN reports JD Vance won the debate in quick polls of swing state voters post debate.
Cope harder. There is simple truth on this issue and I’ll continue to speak the truth here.
WashPo, CBS, and CNN, the arbiters of truth on all subjective matters. Forgive my ignorance.
No wonder the media is free to fuck up this country.
Polls aren’t subjective. It’s just asking a question, recording the stats and then publishing some graphs.
Yeah they can be fucked with, but WashPo, CBS and CNN aren’t some right wing bullshit site who lies about results.
Polls will always be limited by sample size and selection bias. Subjective.
That’s right everyone, the Bezos Post is left leaning!
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-post/
Yall live in your own fucking reality. I’ll tell you what.
And who the fuck crowned MBFC the kings of based unbiased-ness?
The “both sides” types seem to think it is entirely credible… 🤣
It’s fucking bullshit. It ranks news orgs owned by billionaires as “left leaning”
Yes. That’s always the question the hard right and their apologists and the Enligtened Centrists ™ can never answer in any serious way and that question is - how can the news outlet of a huge MNC and/or controlled by an oligarch be, in any serious way, on the left?
These unserious people keep telling me that “well, everyone just knows” or quoting polls that poll the newsreaders or the stenographers for the elite and who they are registered for, not realizing we are talking about the help, not the owners. What the help wants or who they vote for doesn’t mean a fart in a high wind. It’s the owners that call the tune, FFS.
Oh I see, dispite it being owned by a BILIONAIRE who is opposed to any fundimental change in the status quo, this one website says they are left leaning so no need to consider anything they are left… FFS use your damn brain
Cope harder dumbass.
All the polls this morning are that JD Vance outperformed this thing.
Actually, don’t cope. Turn on your fucking brain and see the threat for what it is. Pull your head out of your ass, strategize and make Kamala and Walz win in this upcoming election.
Lies about Walz performance last night do NOT help the cause.
More Americans like what JD Vance pulled last night on TV than you realize. That is the scope of the threat here.
I mean, am not arguing who did better, I will be honest I both did not watch it, and already voted.
As for what the threat is, I cannot see a significant difrence between Trump and Harris, and there is a real likelyhood Trump wins agian, but the cause for that is that the Dems keep lurching rightword and refuse to even consider trying to move to the left, so people stop approving of them and stop voting.
Agian I am not saying polls one way or the other, but the media fact check, no WatPo is right wing owned by a bilionare, the data they present may or may not be accurate on a case by case, and I would not be suprised if high approval was the turnout here.
You can’t see any difference between Trump and Harris? That is hard to believe.
I cannot see any significant diffrence between the two in what they will do or what they will say, I get stern faced conman facism or laughing facism, both are facism
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How have you been on Lemmy for a year, and don’t yet know that we fucking hate MBFC?
Can someone please explain to me why everyone hates this? I’m so lost lol
Cuz it’s not objective.
Because they are losing the factual discussion with me here.
Polls from CBS and CNN confirm that JD Vance won the debate last night and that JD Vance is up huge in favorability.
They don’t like to see how unpopular liberal viewpoints really are. Or the reality of the American political system. But we need to push reality above all, we cannot afford to be complacent moving into this election.
You’re focused on polling. If you think polling is “factual”, you don’t understand how polling works.
MAGA uses it so suggest that every fact you throw at them is biased because an outlet may lean left, which the majority of the noteworthy ones do. My buddy is a maga guy and he even declares AP news and Reuters as liberal mainstream media.
Another popular tactic is to see who owns the company where the news is coming from. If there’s a single Democrat on the board of directors or anything like that, then the news is “tainted”
Can’t win. It’s also pointless giving them facts I’ve learned over the past 8 years.
That MBFC garbage even rated AP as left leaning last time I saw it. It’s so incredibly biased.
Because the vast majority of “mainstream” news outlets are pro-corporate and pro-capitalism, making them center-right at best, yet they label them as left wing. The entire idea behind the site is Republican propaganda that was created to coerce the media into repeating their lies unquestioningly, lest they be labeled as “biased”.
Oh wow, WaPo? Well, if daddy Bezos says so, I guess it must be true. /s
Just gonna throw it out there that WaPo written negative articles about Amazon many times