I enjoyed this article. You don’t typically expect a comedy special to be a mea culpa and it seems that this is the case.
I don’t think the feminist angle should protect you from being a shit head boss. More men probably get away with it but it’s still not a reason to be a bad boss? So it’s an odd defense. Also, pretty sure James Corden was called out too, so, you know …
What’d I miss? I’ve worked for some bosses who were complete assholes, and I’ve worked for bosses where learning they had ADHD or OCD is absolutely no surprise. I’ve also worked for people-pleasers and pranksters.
I’m gonna all but beg for downvotes, but i admit I haven’t been paying enough attention to spot more than just immature serially-hyper-focused “ha ha look at me that was fun for the 50th time wanna know what my favourite dinosaur is?” behaviour of someone with profound ADHD.
Where was she a documented asshole beyond that? It was in the dreck I just really ignored?
While I have your attention before the downvote, I’m glad that she seemed more relaxed in that special, that she brought Portia up - who is a stunner to this day, wow - for this maybe-last appearance like “this is me happy now” and how far a cry that was from her early days hiding her sexuality from herself, then family, then work. If she’s happy as she quits the biz, then I think that’s everyone.
She would literally fire people on set for looking at or talking to her. She would yell and berate people to the point that they would burst into tears and then laugh about it. She wasn’t just a horrible boss - she made it extremely clear that she’s a shitty person
Untreated ADHD often leads to major depression, anxiety, PTSD, and a lot of other shit. Not everyone with ADHD is hyper or talkative, sometimes it’s internalized and trust me, it fucking sucks. It can legitimately be disabling at times.
Eh, she was an arsehole and a bully to her workers (and guests). People don’t like that. They also don’t like it when people go “I’m neurodivergent!” to excuse said arseholery. Especially other NDs. Drags all of us down
Netflix just gives anyone a comedy special. That ape Rogan got one too
Her show was funny for the landscape in which it existed. I haven’t liked her since she got the talk show, but I’m not the target market. I’ve disliked her ever since the picture with all the celebs at whatever award show or something. I really dislike her after reading what a shitty job she did of taking responsibility for her shortcomings in this article.
Bye, Ellen. Don’t come back.
TIL people still care about Ellen DeGeneres
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Yeah, and they’re all named Ellen DeGeneres. Also, they’re just one person.
Yeesh, can’t stand her. The way she talks just makes me gag.
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I laughed out loud multiple times watching this “unfunny” comedy special? It really felt like the Times had a hell of an axe to grind with her.
Mind you, I’ve never watched the Ellen Show even once in my life, so pretty much her standup is the only interaction I’ve ever had with her.
Wtf happened to this woman? She used to be such a brave trailblazer. Then she started going to football games with GW Bush.
She was always a bad person, especially with her employees. To hell with her
A dump truck full of money probably had something to do with it.
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Lots of fame made her believe her own farts were gifts to the people.
This made me imagine people at an Oprah show reaching under their seats and finding farts in a jar.
Throughout For Your Approval, she offers excuses for what she never quite admits might’ve been chaos on her set, along with several disclosures that seem intended to evoke sympathy. Ellen has OCD and ADD, she tells us, along with the need to “heal childhood wounds” by earning the love of strangers. Also: “I was a very immature boss. Because I didn’t want to be a boss.”
I’m beating a dead horse of how shitty Ellen is. But Im really sick of people using OCD/ADD as the reason they are insufferable.
I’m pretty sure she also forgets things. Chronic amnesia or something.
OCD/AuDHD wreaks havoc on my executive function, and was left untreated for so long that my life is now falling apart.
I’m insufferable for completely different reasons.
I feel ya. You’re not alone.
Same. Despite plenty of signs, my parents refused to accept that I could even be slightly autistic (due to the stigma of it I guess?) and that my obvious ADHD needed any sort of treatment other than being pulled out of school, isolated at home, and not allowed to eat TONS of things.
I now have to deal with pretty bad social anxiety and a lot of trouble having vocal conversations with people I am not extremely comfortable with. Sure, I would have likely struggled with these things anyway, but I’d probably be a lot more comfortable socializing if I had been able to learn and grow among my peers during my developmental years.
