• stupidcasey@lemmy.world
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    28 days ago

    I feel Microsoft is in for a huge surprise when they end support for all versions of Windows except one that requires you to throw out your old hardware. At the same time, Linux is better than it’s ever been and is almost, if not just as easy to use as Windows. Not to mention, most work is done from a browser these days.

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      27 days ago

      I’m going to say there’s a 10% chance Windows 11 gets BIOS support (or rather drops UEFI requirement) and drops TPM/SecureBoot requirement in the next three years. I think that’s more likely than extending Windows 10 longer.

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      28 days ago

      Only the embedded variety meant to run on machines like ATMs, POS systems and other long term support machines.

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    28 days ago

    OK guys, guess it’s time to upgrade to Windows 8. I bet it’ll be great!

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    27 days ago

    They told me Windows 10 was the last Windows and I intend to make them fulfill that promise. And when I fail to make them fulfill their promise, I will keep it for myself.

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      25 days ago

      Just in time to switch to Linux for me. Now that all my games run on Linux that will be the logical choice

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      27 days ago

      Win10 is the last windows. Defang it and put it in a VM. Still a better UI than the competition although KDE plasma is getting close, dolphin is very nice

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          Yes, I will not retrain my muscle memory plus the incessant fucking around in console to do basic things like search files. I want everything, irfanview, alt-snap, , explorer patcher features, consistent dark themes, ditto clipboard manager, fancyZone, xmousebuttoncontrol. Exactly identical, I’m staying on defanged win10 until then

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        27 days ago

        KDE these days is better at being Windows than Windows. Dunno how long it’s been since you’ve used it (or how much/little you tinkered with it)

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          27 days ago

          I tried it last week. It looks and feel great. But it’s missing a lot of software that I want and many things are in the wrong place. Maybe when they add seamless network transparency to Wayland and I can just stream the applications that I want.

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      /sigh at this point i feel like “that guy” but M$ didnt say 10 would be the last Microsoft, a specific employee said it in a specific situation, that in context was pretty obviously “latest” and not “final”.

      The internet just took that one line and ran with it, as they are known to do.

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        /sigh, I barely use it, and when I do, it pisses me off. I’ll try to remember this anyway, thanks.

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    27 days ago

    Lately I’ve been using OpenSUSE GNU/Linux and so far I’ve been relatively happy with. The installation process is simple and concise, and the system is rock-solid and easy to use.

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      Maybe I should try OpenSUSE first when I’ll switch my gaming desktop back to Linux. My first Linux experience was with SuSE 6.2 and that was very positive. Good to hear people are still happy about it.

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      One of us!

      I have Leap on my homelab and Tumbleweed on my desktop and laptop for >5 years now. It’s been awesome, and it’s my favorite so far from >15 years of Linux.

      Glad you’re enjoying it! Next step: get unreasonably obsessed with chameleons.

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        I’m running Tumbleweed myself! Been very pleased overall. I believe OpenSUSE may have just cured my distro-hopping.

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          I’ve distro hopped for over 20 years. I always come back to SUSE. SUSE 8 was the first distro I use and they just always seem to have some qol additions I’m used to.

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    28 days ago

    Windows has been alternating between good and crap for decades. ME, crap. XP, good. Vista, crap. 7, good. 8/8.1, crap. 10, good…ish. 11, steaming feces. 12 will probably be at least half decent.

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        12 will very likely just be 11. They don’t do OS development like they used to. Windows is essentially now an OS that gets DLC every 6 months.

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          11 made me make that switch. My main gaming / media machine is still on W10 and will be until it dies. Then I’ll finally invest in figuring out gaming on Linux.

          But for day to day browsing and development. Ubuntu has been excellent and is much more snappy than windows. I also picked up a cheap ancient MacBook pro for interviews and it’s a solid machine as well.

          No regrets so far.

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          I switched to Bazzite on my main PC at the start of September and it’s been great. I only use Windows for steam link vr streaming

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          The most Windows-like desktop(and more) on Linux is KDE, second maybe to Cinnamon, and XFCE if we’re talking XP-ish and classic.

          On Linux, your underlying system is not reliant on your GUI. They are not bonded in any sense, and the GUI can be any number of different programs, known as Desktops.

          You can run a Ubuntu system with the KDE desktop, or the Gnome desktop, Unity, or XFCE, or Cinnamon… or maybe two or three at once and choose at login! he’s a madman!

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            I like how GNOME looks, I’ve messed around with it a little on my laptop.

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      27 days ago

      10, good…ish.

      Windows 10 was never really good, its launch was very rocky. Most people just stockholmed their way into liking 10.

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      I’ve had the opposite experience - 10 sucked, but I have no complaints about 11… Though it might make a difference that my experience with 10 was after my old (win7 vintage) laptop took the free update, while my 11 experience is based on a new laptop that came with it preinstalled…

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      28 days ago

      Fake news. MS said that Win 10 was the last one they were going to make so all of those others you mentioned are obviously fake.

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    28 days ago

    Wait, just now?

    Then why did I read online that it was insecure as hell to stay in Windows 8.1? (I was setting up an old lap for a mom’s friend, with 4 painful GBs of RAM).

    Also, doesn’t Windows 10 support supposedly end next year?

    I think I am not getting the kind of support that Windows provides.

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      Microsoft offers a long-term support version of Windows called LTSC that’s stripped down, only receives security updates, and is supported for 10 years from its release.

      It’s only officially available to business clients, but with a little yar har fiddeldy dee, you too can experience extended support!

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        but with a little yar har fiddeldy dee, you too can experience extended support!

        I figured, but I didn’t read anything about that when I was on the massgrave site the other day, so that is why I just thought all older Windows versions are gone for good.

        It will come in handy for my Windows 10 Pro version that I have installed in my Mac though.

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      The extended support updates aren’t available to end consumers but is a paid product for enterprises that need more time to update.