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    A company “accusing” someone of piracy isn’t proof. Access to the internet is almost essential these days. If you can prove a person is pirating prosecute them under the law with fines or even incarceration if warranted. But stripping internet access from someone shouldn’t be seen as an acceptable punishment for a free citizen anyway.

    Whoever owns the network attached to the IP address also shouldn’t be responsible for actions of every user. Let’s ban an entire company, college, or government institution from the internet because an IP showed up on a list… dumb ruling.

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        Remember to turn off their sunlight too!

        And while we’re at it, let’s cut the wind off at their property as well, so they can’t generate any local wind power!

        And definitely take away their fruits and zinc and copper, so they can’t build their own massive multi-lemon batteries, which they will otherwise rapidly upscale by growing even more lemons, using the same array of lemon-powered LEDs that also grew that weed, all in an infinite loop of lemon kush! We really can’t let that happen.

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      Hey someone’s gotta keep the average IQ of a lawyer bell curve balanced. I’m pretty sure the 5th circuit is the equivalent to “Florida Man” in the legal space.

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        The theory I heard on the Strict Scrutiny podcast is that the 5th Circuit exists to write atrocious opinions on terrible rulings so that the Supreme Court can make rulings that are only 85% as horrible as that so the SC can seem more reasonable by comparison.

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    The 5th circuit includes Louisiana, Texas, and Mississippi so they can go fuck themselves. You think I’ll live by the opinion of some backwater states? Only a corrupt supreme court would uphold this ruling-ohhh fuckity fuck fuck!

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      so they can go fuck themselves.

      They didn’t need your permission. That’s how they keep breaking records for lowest IQ. ;)

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      You do realize that federal judges crib notes from judges in other jurisdictions, right? As in, while this ruling probably doesn’t directly effect you, if there’s a similar case in your jurisdiction, they’ll look at this decision and probably side with it if the facts of the case are similar enough.

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      If y’all don’t like it, encourage your friends in Texas to fucking vote. This kangaroo court gets to be the reliable Conservative rubber stamp it is, because they’re appointed by whatever president is in power when vacancies become available.

      Biden was able to appoint two, and Obama appointed two, Clinton one. Bush Jr. appointed four, Reagan appointed two, and Trump appointed fucking six, which explains why they constantly capitulate to big business.

      Voting matters. There is so much at stake.

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        I mean yes, please vote people.

        However the supreme court is stacked because Bitch McConnell is a piece of shit.

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          FUN FACT: Five Justices of the Supreme Court were appointed by presidents who were inaugurated despite losing the popular vote! That’s a full majority! And purely by coincidence, all of them are Republicans! :D

          …alright, obviously it’s not fun. I can’t believe the audacity some people have to act surprised and offended when people say the Court is illegitimate.

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    Terminated the user or the users access? Can’t be too careful with wording from judges these days.

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    This needs to go to the next level. Do some torrenting off of the public wifi at the courthouse and get the courthouse’s internet terminated.

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      Supreme Court?

      I don’t think you want that. That will cause every ISP to block VPN and torrent traffic out of fear because essentially this will be “law” being established if they get their hands on it

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          They mean the next level of courts.

          They aren’t suggesting that you pirate from the supreme court (although I have nothing against it)

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            Yes, they asked, “Supreme Court?” But I clarified that is not what I meant by next level.

            I meant escalate the number of people being disconnected starting with the court that made the ruling. Or perhaps the judge wants that so as to force ISPs to be declared as utilities.

            ISP’s want it both ways. They want the protection of utilities without the regulations.

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      It’s not.

      The 5th Circuit remanded the case to the district court for a new trial on damages. Record labels can expect a lower payout because the appeals court said they can’t obtain separate damages awards for multiple songs on the same album.

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    So no due process, just “cut the Internet of the people we tell you to.” What the fuck?

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    This doesn’t seem to be a problem in the UK. I’ve been pirating for years and never even received a letter from my ISP.

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      It is still better be on the err side and leave no trace they can use aginst.

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      One of my mates has been pinged for it before, but it seems like he just got a stern letter.

      I put my setup behind a VPN anyway. Proton hasn’t done me wrong yet.

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      ISPs won’t do shit that would affect their bottom line. If they play ball with this it’s a slippery slope to mass cullings of their subscriber base.

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      I’ve had a couple of vapid emails from VirginMedia for one (Animal Kingdom) of many TV shows I’ve downloaded over the years.

      Shame they didn’t send it by snail mail, could’ve got some free toilet paper out of them then.

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      In Canada, I get letters (well emails) when I rawdawg some torrents; but it’s never gone further than that.

      Prior to using usenet, I constantly torrented w/o a VPN (talking 10+ TB of data across 3ish years) and received a new email notice or two every other day. I’ve still got a folder with 60+ notices. ISP doesn’t give af, they just forward the copyright notice in the form it was sent to them, and that’s it.

      Now though I primarily use usenet and haven’t gotten a notice since. Downloads are also way way more reliable and faster.

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        Teksavvy lets me do precisely whatever the fuck I want, and doesn’t make a peep. They collect their $80 and fuck right off until I need them.

        Telus, on the other hand, can go fuck themselves with a rusty spoon. They sent me a letter and I switched ISPs within 24 hours.

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          Telus is the one that’s sent me dozens of notices; they don’t care. They just pass on the message they received and wash their hands.

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        rawdawg some torrents

        LOL! Did you spray 1’s and 0’s in their face when you were done?

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    Sony, WB, and Universal logic:

    The people at that address probably use water to make meth. Cut off their water so they can’t make meth.

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      Or they received a USB cable, which they later used to transfer pirated files, in an envelope… Remove their mailbox! (Or force every postal service person to ignore it…)

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    If this is the case then artists should be able to shut down internet access for AI companies that steal their work in those states.