Alarm as Pentagon Confirms Deployment of US Troops to Israel | Common Dreams
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"Netanyahu is as close as he has ever been to his ultimate wish: making the U.S. fight Iran on Israel's behalf," wrote one journalist.
  • DandomRude@lemmy.worldEnglish
    829·
    19 days ago

    US President Joe Biden has said he is “absolutely, positively” urging Israel to stop firing at UN peacekeepers during its conflict with Hezbollah in Lebanon, following two incidents in 48 hours. Source

    Some hours later: Biden absolutely, positively sends troops to help Israel out. WTF…

    • EatATaco@lemm.eeEnglish
      169·
      19 days ago

      Wtf is going on in this comments section? They are sending an anti air battery to protect them against rocket fire, but the bulk of the comments are acting like they are sending in troops to go in on the ground into Gaza/Lebanon.

      Does really noone even bother to read the article?

      • DandomRude@lemmy.worldEnglish
        125·
        19 days ago

        I am not a US citizen. My point is not that US troops are being deployed, but that this is a war of aggression that contradicts international law. The US should not support this - not in any way.

        • EatATaco@lemm.eeEnglish
          49·
          19 days ago

          I agree that they shouldn’t be supporting it. But we’re talking about defending a country against missile attacks, not violating some potential ceasefire by launching missiles for Israel.

          • WanderingVentra@lemm.eeEnglish
            105·
            19 days ago

            They’re enabling Israel’s aggression by providing military support, even defensive support. Not to mention adding US troops to the area increases chances some will get killed or injured, providing an excuse to enter the conflict even more.

            • EatATaco@lemm.eeEnglish
              47·
              19 days ago

              I was responding to someone who claimed that by sending tools to stop weapons from killing people, Biden is violating his call for a ceasefire.

              You can disagree with this, but claiming it’s aggressive is just blatantly false.

          • DandomRude@lemmy.worldEnglish
            84·
            19 days ago

            The thing is that Israel was never attacked in a military sense. It was a terrible terrorist attack, that much is true. Israel retaliated - not only against those responsible, but above all against the Palestinian civilian population. The number of victims is simply disproportionate: the attack on October 7, 2023 claimed 1,200 lives; Israel has now killed more than 40,000 Palestinians (this is a conservative estimate). There is no longer any danger for Israel - and in terms of its military superiority, there hasn’t been any for the last 20 years. Lebanon is only marginally involved in all this. Hezbollah is not Hamas. I don’t want to go too far with all the his. It’s simple: what Israel is doing is wrong on any moral scale. Anyone who doesn’t see that is grossly misinformed.

            • EatATaco@lemm.eeEnglish
              33·
              19 days ago

              Noone is defending Israel’s invasion here. Your top level comment implied that Biden is violating his own call to a ceasefire by sending these troops in …when they are a defensive unit. No missile attacks, no need to use the defensive battery.

              • DandomRude@lemmy.worldEnglish
                13·
                19 days ago

                What do you want me to say? With a view to the US election campaign, I’m glad to say: Vote for Harris/Walz! The apparent alternative Trump/Vance would be much worse even in this matter. I have no problem to say that because it’s true. That does not mean that you are fighting a just cause here - on the contrary. It just means that your political system is in shambles and that your moral compass if way off.

                • EatATaco@lemm.eeEnglish
                  42·
                  19 days ago

                  What do you want me to say?

                  What I would love is for people to read the article and then objectively think about it for a second, rather than just knee-jerk respond to the headline in a way that confirms what they already believe to be true, seemingly regardless of what is actually happening.

                  All I did was correct the misinformation you were spreading. There are plenty of valid reason to criticize the Biden admin over, no need to make ones up.

            • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              22·
              19 days ago

              Zios are in danger as long as the rightful inheritors of the stolen land are alive.

              That’s the whole point of their genocide.

      • where_am_i@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        43·
        19 days ago

        Lemmy is too obsessed with elections and swallowed the bait. Seeing everyone’s reaction I did.

        Luckily I’ve looked a bit further down the thread to find something not about elections, and saw this comment.

        The title is hella misleading and clickbait. We should restrict people from posting such BS.

      • OutlierBlue@lemmy.caEnglish
        32·
        19 days ago

        This emboldens the bully Israel. Now they know that no matter who they pick on, they will never feel any real counter-attacks because the US will stop them all. This encourages them to continue their attacks and to pick new fights because there will never be any consequences. If Biden wants to encourage Netanyahu to stop his wars of aggression, he needs to make Israel second guess their attacks.

        This move absolutely counters his message for a ceasefire. This will embolden them to keep fighting.

  • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
    977·
    19 days ago

    I hate how I can’t even comfort myself by knowing this idiocy will cost them the election because these fucks are the less horrible option.

    • TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      584·
      19 days ago

      Yep, this is coming from the most ‘leftist’ candidates we are allowed to vote for. Pretty fucked up options we get to choose from. I hate it here.

      • yeather@lemmy.caEnglish
        3·
        19 days ago

        You can always vote more left, and should vote more left if you live in a dem stronghold like California.

  • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.worldEnglish
    123·
    19 days ago

    As an aside, “THAAD battery” sounds like someone harnessed exasperation towards a rich kid and converted it into electricity 😁

  • riodoro1@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3714·
    19 days ago

    Oh shit. Either he’s trolling Harris’s campaign or they really are a cult. Very popular decision joe, sure people will forget till november.

    • Kbobabob@lemmy.worldEnglish
      67·
      19 days ago

      cult

      I have only heard this used in referring to Republicans. How did you come up with that description, especially in this context?

    • logos@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      176·
      19 days ago

      I got to believe Bibi has him by the balls somehow. It’s the only thing that makes sense.

      Can we article 25 this fool? Harris might have a better chance if she’s already been president for a bit anyway.

      • Madison420@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        19 days ago

        You think it’s just Biden that has hands in this? Israel would never have been so bold if the USA didn’t move it’s embassy to Jerusalem and that choice was not Bidens.

      • riodoro1@lemmy.worldEnglish
        113·
        19 days ago

        But Harris will most likely just send more troops. She did confirm she „supports” israel.

      • elucubra@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        12·
        19 days ago

        It’s quite obvious the Israelis have many US politicians either in their payroll, or have dirt on them. That-s pretty much standard operating procedure for the Israeli intelligence services. They are masters at those things. All you have to see is their depth of infiltration in Muslim countries.

        I hate that, but I must admit they are impressive.

        • snooggums@lemmy.worldEnglish
          10·
          19 days ago

          Or, old fucks who were born around the time of the holocaust still think of all Jewish people as victims of the holocaust and can’t wrap their head around the fact that some Jewish people can be just as horrible as anyone else.

      • index@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        43·
        19 days ago

        Governments and rulers had every peasant below them by the balls for centuries. What are you going to do about troops being deployed to aid israel?

  • Liam Mayfair@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    7913·
    19 days ago

    Clickbait bullshit. The Department of Defense statement clarifies the US “troops” are just the crew required to operate the air defense battery equipment the US has been supplying to Israel for a while now.

    This is not the first time the United States has deployed a THAAD battery to the region. The President directed the military to deploy a THAAD battery to the Middle East last year following the October 7th attacks to defend American troops and interests in the region.

    Again, nothing new or different about this. The US is not putting boots on the ground to shoot people up. At least not yet.

    • CptEnder@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      17 days ago

      Yeah we don’t share our real defense tech with allies, even Israel. THAAD is legit platform we field and this would not let any IDF forces near.

    • psycocan@lemmy.mlEnglish
      113·
      18 days ago

      And don’t you think that 100 troops deployed in Israel means that the US is actively defending Israel? We’re already past the point of the US enabling Israel aggressions and rabid rogue actions and the large scale genocide. The US will fight the wars started by Israel

    • Andy@slrpnk.netEnglish
      325·
      18 days ago

      No, you’re very mistaken. Let me explain.

      In the past, the US has stationed supporting troops off of Israel, in battleships far away. It’s meant to provide support while keeping things calm.

      The reason that putting any soldiers IN Israel is significant is that it means that if Iran tries to kill any Israeli soldiers, they can’t do it without risking killing Americans. And if they kill an American, it is understood that we will retaliate and they will be at war with the United States of America.

      That’s the point of sending 100 troops to offer “tech support”. It’s to deliberately create conditions that could start a war. If you ask a general, they’ll claim that it’s just shrewd tactics, because letting Iran know all this means that good judgment will prevent them from attacking Israel. But every war in history is preceded by people making those claims (even when they don’t believe them) before going to war.

      This is foreplay. This is how you flirt when you’re a NatSec pervert thinking of going to war against someone.

  • abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.usEnglish
    12·
    18 days ago

    “the Israelis are clearly planning something for Iran that is going to cause a retaliation they know their own systems are unable to take.”

    This has me very worried. What the heck are they planning that the US would send its troops to operate a THAAD? What are they going to do that would cause that severe of a response from Iranian forces?

    “Nothing in current law authorizes the United States to conduct offensive military action against Iran.”

    Alas, that’s technically wrong, because of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_Use_of_Military_Force_of_2001#Efforts_for_repeal

    The 2001 AUMF has been widely perceived as a bill that grants the President powers to unilaterally wage perpetual “worldwide wars”

    Vance is right about one thing - the 2001 AUMF has got to be repealed.