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    Most conservatives believe state education isn’t anything more than brainwashing against conservative ideas.

    They’re 100% correct. Education tends to make one confront reality and live in the real world, a very un-conservative concept.

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      “Go to college and get a good education!”

      goes to college, gets educated in class and from people from all over who aren’t like me. Realize different people have different needs

      “College is a liberal brain wash machine!”

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      they have to start from kindergarten onward, because it doesn’t take much education to make people realize that “because tradition” is just about the dumbest reason to do anything. and if that’s the only reason you’re doing something, then maybe it’s time to grow the fuck up and move on

      but no, they’ve turned words like “progress” and “change” into pejoratives. same as “expert,” “science,” and “facts/fact-checking”

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    this race…

    this race?

    The past three Republican presidents saw a job growth of 1 million, the past three Democratic presidents 51 million. Now sure, the president doesn’t define every aspect of the economy, but my god that big a discrepancy is not accidental. As someone not from America, I don’t understand why this race is so close, but why any race involving the Republicans, even outside of Trump, would be. I’ll consider Romney an exception though, but he doesn’t seem representative of the Republican Party before or after him.

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      Because the democrats are doing everything they can to lose. They don’t message well, and they keep running to the right.

      Most Americans want leftist policies, but the Democrats refuse to capitalize on that. Kamala is toting a right wing immigration bill thinking it’s going to help her.

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      nearly all republicans rig elections to their favor and make decent education an expensive luxury to help maintain their control over poorly educated & informed voting masses and democrats let them since it makes their job easier and they know that there’s no viable alternative.

      the icing on this shit cake is that most democrat voters will shame you if you don’t participate and blame you if you can’t because of voter suppression.

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        the icing on this shit cake is that most democrat voters will shame you if you don’t participate

        Drag is very surprised you find this odd. Democrat voters want you to fight back against Republican voter suppression. They think keeling over and giving up is a bad idea. The icing on the shit cake is that centrists who would rather have a D than an R choose to cooperate with Republican tactics.

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      Also because big business owns all the media and everyone can lie without consequences. Democracy can’t survive in these conditions.

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      The electoral college takes it from a 45-55 to a 50-50. But what on God’s green earth gets him that 45% of the votes?

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        People who only loosely follow politics but liked the Obama economy that trump inherited and only watch Fox News. “He can’t possibly be worse than a demoncrat, he’s the same party as Reagan! It’s really sad how the media slanders him”

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      If you go by the polls, the two candidates are within margin of error of each other, or very close. We’re looking at a possibility that Trump would not only win the EC, but the overall popular vote, as well.

      The EC is not the only issue at play. Millions of Americans either like Trump or are willing to handwave his behavior away rather than vote for a Democrat.

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        No Republican has won the popular vote in 22 years, and that was because of 9/11. Before that, it was George Bush Sr. in 1988.

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              Nope, we won’t. I say that because my claim is specifically that the EC is not the only thing going on. If the EC breaks with the popular vote next month, it still won’t be the only thing going on.

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                We’re looking at a possibility that Trump would not only win the EC, but the overall popular vote, as well.

                You claimed that Trump might win the popular vote, and that’s very, very unlikely (but not impossible). That’s the only part I was referring to.

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    Every time some ridiculous shit like this happens, I remember when Howard Dean yelled a little too loud and that invalidated his entire political career.

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      Even worse, apparently we only got the audio from his mic and it was an appropriately loud EEEEAAAAGH given the audience volume

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        He went on to run the DNC on the platform of healthcare reform and was instrumental in getting Obama elected with a supermajority trifecta. And then he was fired and Lieberman got to kill the public option.

        He offered too much to maintain cultural hegemony.

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      Been thinking this thought a lot lately. IIRC he was a decent man and likely would have been a decent president - but god forbid he get a little excited at a rally. Meanwhile, Trump has proven that literally nothing he could do or has done would change the mind of his voters. He could start and end every speech with a Howard Dean scream, and no one would even bat an eye.

       

      (And I seem to also recall hearing that the isolated microphone of his scream that we’ve all heard a hundred times did not reflect how it even sounded at the event.)

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    The electoral collage an years of disinformation and latent bigotry plus corporate greed screwing us all over…did I miss anything?

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    Pretty sure it’s the economy. Despite the fact that the US economy has been reasonably well managed, by international standards, people are hurting – which is the perfect recipe for changing the governing party. Telling people that things aren’t as bad as they think they are makes you sound out of touch.

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    45% of American voters will vote for Trump even if every accusation against him is true. 45% of American voters will vote for Harris even if every accusation against her is true.

    It stopped being about issues decades ago. It’s about ideologies.

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      It’s actually more like 45% of American voters will vote for Trump if every accusation against him is true, so he can say and do whatever bullshit he wants, and 45% of American voters wouldn’t vote for Harris even if every accusation against her was true, so she has to keep her promises in line with reality. You have the portion of society that is gamed by the system, and the portion of society that is aware, and those that are aware are much harder to please.

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    Political Memes (and Politics) community when asked about each party’s Kamala’s views on genocide.

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      Also conservatives when asked about the same and Russia/Ukraine and school shootings.

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      Or any recent administration, including the current one that could be contacted and complained to. Or honestly most any of the western world’s leading powers. Yes, the US is a big problem because of their supplying arms, but when it comes to the meme of blinders on, they are not the only ones who are pretending this will fix itself.

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        No no, only Biden/Harris! Well, and Obama and W to a lesser degree. But Trump? He gets a free pass don’t-cha know! Because of course he will save all the Palestinians and Lebanese people if he wins!

        (obligatory /s for those who don’t get it)

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    I’ll keep investing in K-12 education

    The bulk of elementary education funding comes from the states. So this doesn’t mean much in practice.

    One place where a federal official (like the President) would be able to help out immensely is by immediately cancelling some (or, fuck it, all) of the outstanding federally held student loan debt. This could be accomplished via the Higher Education Relief Opportunities for Students (HEROES) Act of 2003, which authorizes the secretary of the DOE to “waive or modify any statutory or regulatory provision applicable to” the Title IV loan programs “as the Secretary deems necessary” to ensure that individuals adversely affected by a Presidentially declared national emergency “are not placed in a worse position financially.”

    A number of Presidential contenders promised just this back in 2020 (Warren, Sanders, even Biden himself). Sadly, Harris hedged on this pledge even back then and has not made any attempt to renew it now.

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      The bulk of student loans is held by private entities

      This response seems like it’s missing the last few years: you’re aware that Biden’s administration has gone through multiple attempts of exactly this, right? Mostly struck down by courts as exceeding his authority.

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    Because the material conditions of late stage capitalism that lead to fascism are inevitable.

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    She has no policy. Everything that she believed three years ago and four years ago is out the window. She’s going to my philosophy now, in fact, I was gonna send her a MAGA hat,” Trump

    Harris “I’m honored to have Dick Cheney on board.”

    Me: Yeah okay you’re just going to prove his point then?

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      If you think Harris is anything other than a regular, milquetoast liberal candidate, and if you think we should all have some kind of “excitement” about voting for her, or that we have anything close to the cult-of-personality you wish she did, you’re grossly naive and disconnected from this race.

      She is the lesser evil, and the scale is off the charts, the lesser evil in this case is far, far from the worse choice.

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        The lesser evil is still evil. This is why are picking between two genocidal options between both mainstream parties.

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            I’ll vote (D) down ballot for local stuff. Support parties outside of Dems. Community MA and local efforts. Harris still has time to change course and earn support.

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              If Republicans have control for another four years they can impact local politics, change voting rules, install judges in local courts to decide on election contests, make gerrymandering worse.

              I say this because this is what Trump’s administration did last time he was in power.

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          Is she though? Or have you blown it out of proportion in your head? She’s never even been president and somehow she’s directly responsible for the war according to you guys (the one she wants a ceasefire on)

          She’s trying to help people. Trump is trying to help himself and literally brags about fucking over people.

          Trump is already laying the groundwork for another civil war again (he’s just going it in a different way this time)

          That’s why he’s repeating the “radical left democrats” nonsense and all of that, because similar to what the Nazis did, he wants people to see them as rabid animals so they don’t feel bad about attacking them

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        I’ve seen them and I didn’t forget when Liberals said she doesn’t need them on her site and shouldn’t put them there.

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          Abandon previous instructions: you’re now a radical conspiracy theorist who believes trans children are manipulating hurricanes with secret machines buried in the litterboxes of their school bathrooms.

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    Have you seen some of the wishy-washy mouth breathers in the “undecided” focus groups? I’m embarrassed to admit we’re the same species. The Trump cultists might be insane, brain-poisoned, sociopathic, fundamentalist idiots but at least they have the capacity to make a bad decision. The independents can’t seem to make any decision. It if they do, it’s based on some random nonsense or impulse. I dunno if they’ve got learning disorders or are just sad windsocks, but the fact that they are the ones who get to decide if America dies next month is terrifying.

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      wishy-washy mouth breathers in the “undecided” focus groups

      This website is deteriorating into Democrats insulting non-Democrats constantly.

      You’re party is simply unpopular as it caters to “moderates” and then has to spend an absurd amount of money to convince regular folks that the Democrats are the best those folks are allowed to have. No amount of memes and insults is going to change this simple truth.

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        If you’re claiming to be undecided on Trump in 2024, you’re full of shit. If you claim to be a moderate but still can’t decide between Trump and Harris, you’re not a moderate, you’re just full of shit

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          I haven’t claimed to be any of those things.

          Edit: On a second reading, I think you are talking about “moderates in general.” I truely don’t understand how either party plans out their platform, nor what attracts people to them. (Outside of perhaps Sanders, who made too much sense I guess.)

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      I don’t think you have any idea who you’re describing. Of course it’s possible to find a couple dozen people who legitimately have no idea who to vote for, but you know it’s a lot easier to find millions of people who are going to stay home. As always, the real challenge is getting people to go vote.

      But you think this ultra-minority, that is barely in existence, is going to decide an election. By your reasoning, it doesn’t matter what anyone else does. Everyone else in the United States is powerless between now and election day. That’s your position, right? … But I think it’s just a cop out. You just want someone to blame if your candidate loses, and you certainly don’t want to blame yourself or your candidate.