• SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.worldOP
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    26 days ago

    Wouldn’t it make more sense to vote for the better of the two presidential nominees then vote all PSL down ballot where they can make real change?

    Why wouldn’t that work?

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      26 days ago

      If I cared more about supporting the democrat or republican policies than about building an alternative, yes.

      Of course, I came to the conclusion that I didn’t want to support republican or democrat policies and don’t trust the democrats to do what they campaign on almost a decade and a half ago, so personally I would never do that.

      And I’m here voicing support for a third party which has a platform wildly different than the republicans and democrats so it’s pretty clear I don’t want to support republican and democrat policies at all.

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        26 days ago

        then vote all PSL down ballot where they can make real change? Why wouldn’t that work?

        You kind of clumsily skipped over the main question here.

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          26 days ago

          I promise you I didn’t.

          I don’t want to support republican or democrat policies.

          Voting for a candidate who is running at the head of either of those parties tickets would be supporting their policies and platforms.

          So no, that wouldn’t work.

          Don’t worry, I’m gonna vote party for socialism and liberation wherever I can on the ballot too and my distaste for the two major parties softens the more localized the race is, both because the outcomes at stake are unique and the candidates are less doctrinaire.

          But no, I’m not gonna vote for a democrat or republican for president but then put the party for socialism and liberation in downticket.

          E: wait a minute, if you really thought the down ballot races were what mattered wouldn’t you be positing that I vote democrat at the local level?

          What gives? Which one matters, president or everything underneath it?

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              26 days ago

              As I said above, I have no interest in supporting republican or democrat policies. The existence and age of genocidal options doesn’t change my aversion to them.

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                26 days ago

                Again, you’re skipping the question and throwing out meaningless catchphrases.

                Why would I want to build parties that are already built when my goal is to topple the existing ones and replace them with ones that are younger and hungrier for change?

                Farting in the wind by voting a third party presidential candidate isn’t going to do that.

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                  26 days ago

                  I’m not quite sure what you’re trying to say here but i directly answered why I wouldn’t vote for a democrat at the top of the ticket. Because I don’t support their policy positions.

                  What are the meaningless catchphrases?

                  What did you mean by your sentence in the middle there about building parties? I read it a few different times but couldn’t tell what you were trying to say.

                  As I said before, way up at the top of our replies, there are real effects that come from voting for a third party candidate, although I appreciate the phrasing given out usernames.

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                    26 days ago

                    Voting third party down ballot builds third parties.

                    Democrats and Republicans have already built their parties so why would you need to help build them?

                    Voting for a presidential candidate is a choice, Trump or Harris directly or indirectly.

                    Voting down ballot is voting for change.

                    Please limit the amount of questions per comment, it’s hard to keep it all straight and feels like gish galloping.

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              26 days ago

              I just told you explicitly that I’m going to vote for party for socialism and liberation in every race they’re running a candidate in.

              Wouldn’t wouldn’t not voting for their presidential candidate be like not putting a roof on your skyscraper?

              And I don’t fault you for not catching my edit, but what’s the deal with claiming that the non presidential stuff is what really matters? If that’s true then why do you care who I cast a ballot for in the presidential race?