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So not fixed, destroyed? So what’s in its place, anarchy?
Communism.
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Well, older people telling kids what are the limitations on how the world can change is not new and has shown historically to be of little epistemological value.
Cause North American kids only think they know what that is but they don’t.
So it’s not a classless society? Also not an American kid btw
Communism in it’s ideal form is impossible… It requires humans to be selfless and share equally. That is not human nature and will never ever happen.
Funny you say that when humans since their very existence cared for their disabled/elderly and formed social relationships trough gifts and gratitude and not for monetary gain.
In fact, lonelyness and the pain associated with it are a protective mechanism, as people were much less likely to survive alone outside the group:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3874845/
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-04930-1
Our ‘human nature’ is to not be an egotistical asshole as that leads to social isolation
It’s actually Capitalism that promotes egotistical and psychopathic behaviour, because you are competing against everyone in order to someday be more wealthy than someone else. Statements like this are bourgeois propaganda to preserve the status quo.
So I’ve actually lived under a communist regime and it was no different than a fascist one. So I dunno what the hell you kids think a communist country looks like.
Actually Communist/Socialist, for a start. With strong democratic institutions.
Dictatorships will always try to preserve their power at the expense of anything else.
You have this weird utopian ideal that is never ever going to happen
Better to have an ideal and fight for a better future than being a defeatist geriatric. Or what do you propose as an alternative?
Ideally: Yes.
A working good enough mix.
The system isn’t broken, it’s “fixed”
Beautiful … the cost analysis of either renovating an old house … or tearing it down and building a new one
Except the house is armed and actively trying to suppress you.
You’ve clearly never had to remodel a mid century house. Asbestos and lead paint or lead pipes guaranteed. Not to mention what boomers considered routine repairs; none of them had the slightest idea what they were doing, especially electrically.
This comment cuts deep.
Sure but houses typically don’t resist change and also don’t make up the fundamental basis of our organization of production and labor. You can’t reform a system dependant on exploitation to one that isn’t. You have to make a non-exploitative system to replace it.
The people advocating to accelerate the decline and break the system so they can have their revolution have no idea how many vulnerable people will be killed in the process, nor do they care.
I would suggest that they look to Syria, and perhaps Myanmar.
There’s no reason to assume that things will get better after a collapse; things are just as likely, or more likely, to get worse. Right now goddamn near half of the voting public in America wants a guy as president that has told us that he’s going to make things worse for nearly everyone. Meditate on that.
If the system isn’t changing, you need to put in the time to convince people at the grass-roots level. You need a ground game; you can’t expect that Jill Stein is going to swoop in and save us all, and then act butt-hurt when her campaign fails for the third time in three presidential election cycles.
People are already being killed by the system. Millions are. It’s just not you yet.
I’m not going to end up getting killed either way, because I’m not an at risk person. I’m white, and I can do a very good job cosplaying as a christian nationalist, because that’s the kind of home I was raised in. And I can just as easily be comfortable with leftists, because that’s what I’ve been for 20-odd years (although the label keeps changing). On the other hand, my Jewish, Muslim, and Satanist friends, my LGBTQ+ friends, my non-white friends, they’re going to suffer and die because of accelerationist fantasies.
You want to actually see improvement? Start building community locally, expand that into real local political power, and then grow that. It’s real work, harder than being a keyboard warrior. You’ll quickly discover that the very messy job of politics is building consensus and compromising. …Which you should already know, considering how excellent leftist groups are at forming circular firing squads.
