Oh please. This started as a simple false statement and now you’re moving the goalposts for them. The Democrats didn’t just propose $15 and “the day after the election it [was] never brought up again”. They tried, maybe they could have tried more, but that they weren’t even close to 50 suggests any path was a failure. They did have 40-something Democrats though, aka the vast majority of the party. That there are shitty Democrats isn’t a revelation.
And this idea that Sanders isn’t a Democrat in any meaningful way is fun trivia, not something a person who is attempting to engage in meaningful conversation about politics takes seriously. He caucuses with them, wins the Democratic primary in his state, competes to lead the party, and supports Democratic nominees even when they’re from the other end of the party. The centrists are disingenuous idiots but so are the leftists who do the exact same thing. Sanders likes the aesthetic of “independent”, good for him, he’s still on team (D) and not remotely the only good senator on it.
Oh please. This started as a simple false statement and now you’re moving the goalposts for them. The Democrats didn’t just propose $15 and “the day after the election it [was] never brought up again”.
Changing the tense changes it from the prediction it was to something you can take issue with by pretending OP was talking about past events.
They tried, maybe they could have tried more, but that they weren’t even close to 50 suggests any path was a failure.
Yup. So Democrats are fucking useless at raising wages, and promises from them regarding raising wages should be treated as the lies they are.
They did have 40-something Democrats though, aka the vast majority of the party. That there are shitty Democrats isn’t a revelation.
It certainly isn’t. But gripe about them and you’re literally trump/putin.
And this idea that Sanders isn’t a Democrat in any meaningful way is fun trivia, not something a person who is attempting to engage in meaningful conversation about politics takes seriously.
It was in 2016 and 2020 when centrists defended the party’s treatment of the progressive wing with “Sanders isn’t even a Democrat!” When it’s convenient for centrists, he’s not a Democrat. When centrists want to steal credit for his work that centrists worked with their Republican buddies to block, suddenly he’s a Democrat.
Oh please. This started as a simple false statement and now you’re moving the goalposts for them. The Democrats didn’t just propose $15 and “the day after the election it [was] never brought up again”. They tried, maybe they could have tried more, but that they weren’t even close to 50 suggests any path was a failure. They did have 40-something Democrats though, aka the vast majority of the party. That there are shitty Democrats isn’t a revelation.
And this idea that Sanders isn’t a Democrat in any meaningful way is fun trivia, not something a person who is attempting to engage in meaningful conversation about politics takes seriously. He caucuses with them, wins the Democratic primary in his state, competes to lead the party, and supports Democratic nominees even when they’re from the other end of the party. The centrists are disingenuous idiots but so are the leftists who do the exact same thing. Sanders likes the aesthetic of “independent”, good for him, he’s still on team (D) and not remotely the only good senator on it.
Changing the tense changes it from the prediction it was to something you can take issue with by pretending OP was talking about past events.
Yup. So Democrats are fucking useless at raising wages, and promises from them regarding raising wages should be treated as the lies they are.
It certainly isn’t. But gripe about them and you’re literally trump/putin.
It was in 2016 and 2020 when centrists defended the party’s treatment of the progressive wing with “Sanders isn’t even a Democrat!” When it’s convenient for centrists, he’s not a Democrat. When centrists want to steal credit for his work that centrists worked with their Republican buddies to block, suddenly he’s a Democrat.