• Comment105@lemm.ee
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      27 days ago

      The communists are really trying to get lefties to not vote, giving the election to Trump.

      Supposedly all to make a statement about Gaza’s importance, something a lot of Americans actually don’t agree with simply because Gazans are not very easy to sympathize with. And that’s not only because of racism.

      Realistically of course we know that a majority of them really just want the US to decend into a messy revolution as soon as possible, so Xi and Putin can conquer their targets with weak or no US opposition.

      Of course there could be a revolution if they had the numbers but it’ll more likely be flashes of civil war, something the right is genuinely more serious about trying to win. There would be a breakdown of logistics, fracturing of territory, and terrible suffering and massive amounts of death – mostly not from combat.

      Maybe some extra delusional communists here hope to find a nice spot in the oppressive one party system they envision for the US, of course a massive long shot which would never gain broad control over the country even if one was established. Most Americans wouldn’t tolerate it and rather defer to state governance.

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        27 days ago

        Hey I feel and agree with you about a lot here but wtf

        Supposedly all to make a statement about Gaza’s importance, something a lot of Americans actually don’t agree with simply because Gazans are not very easy to sympathize with. And that’s not only because of racism.

        How is this any way to talk about… anyone? I don’t need them to be easy to sympathize with, they are automatically entitled to it. Cuz they’re dying. Lets be real clear. Our governments involvement with Israel is fucking awful and Americans have blood on our hands. We can agree or disagree about our own politics but don’t let animosity get the better of you. We are brutalizing innocent people. You and I owe them dignity even if our lifestyles aren’t compatible with theirs or whatever.

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          Everyone knows Gazans were dead set on thrashing and killing until one of the sides was dead and gone. The vast majority of Gazans do not want peace.

          Everyone except Gazans knew which side would be dead if it went too far.

          The only reason the people of Gaza aren’t doing this to Israel is because they literally just aren’t capable. When Gazans rushed out for their killing spree, it showed very clearly where their priorities lie. Killing the enemy for no other gain was more important than absolutely every other consideration.

          Look, I have almost no sympathy for the people of Gaza. The little I have is in the form of thoughts that It would be best to get kids and mothers a safe escape route out to Egypt or somewhere else. I do recognize that Israel is still going too far and should lose support, they have really decided to become something we can’t possibly consider an ally and still tell ourselves we want to be an ethical alliance. But I really just don’t care that Gaza was the target of their brutality. Despite the power imbalance it still feels about as awful as bombardments of Berlin. I’d be curious what you think of the German lives lost. I personally don’t care. It’s a mild tragedy in comparison to what the Germans largely wanted and tolerated from their leadership.

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            27 days ago

            Holy fuck. I’m taken aback. I have no cogent response to your lack of human consideration for the people of Palestine other than to tell you to go fuck yourself and I hope you never have to experience something like what they’re going through. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind you callous fuckwhit.

            Bet you call Russians orcs too. Jesus.

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              Bet you call Russians orcs too. Jesus.

              Yes.

              Again I’d like to ask what you think of the German lives lost in the bombardments of Berlin.

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                Berlin was the capital of the leading Axis power. Palestine is an apartheid state. Fucks your point.

                Alienating and othering people… makes you no better than a Nazi. Because when your opponent has no face and you’ve already decided their deaths are acceptable to you, other opponents will follow. You’ll make a habit of hating and being directed to hate like you already have calling humans “orcs”. Tomorrow it’ll be Iranians or Mexicans or Koreans. You’re not above it.