• basmati@lemmus.org
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      28 days ago

      Can’t wait for you people to head back to reddit, where your kind belong.

  • Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com
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    28 days ago

    At least the Republican backed genocide will also be making life living hell for LGBTQI people, women, and migrants in the US as well.

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    Damn, I can’t wait to hear about all the things you’re doing to try and actually end the abominable genocide against the people of Palestine. Meanwhile the rest of us are looking for ways to do that and also voting against the guy who promised to double-down and bring the violence home against immigrants.

    Pretending Trump’s presidency wouldn’t be objectively worse for all the causes leftists care about, even the ones (like Palestine) Harris isn’t going to do shit about isn’t taking a principled stand. It’s hiding from what little power you have in the electoral system in order to keep whatever happens next off your conscience. And frankly, the Palestinians don’t care about your conscience any more than the Hispanic Americans or trans kids.

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      And frankly, the Palestinians don’t care about your conscience any more than the Hispanic Americans or trans kids.

      All children deserve safety.

    • azuth@sh.itjust.works
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      Meanwhile the rest of us are looking for ways to do that

      What have you looked at so far?

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        Meanwhile the rest of us are looking for ways to do that

        What have you looked at so far?

        3 days on, and the list is still being compiled… I guess?

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          Probably busy campaigning to fix electoral college/first past the post. I am certain they were not just empty words.

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    If both sides are the same, can we at least veer a little bit away from fascism? Hint: both sides are not the same. Your vote for democracy does matter.

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    People come to a meme community and expect a deep, well-reasoned essay on the state of things and the best ways forward from one captioned image :-\ Is there not a dichotomy between nuance and memes?

    The comments around here are just wild flailings based mostly on assumptions. There’s nothing to argue with. It’s a picture with some text on it, popularized as the simplest form of humour. Looking at the comments around here now feels like watching a bunch of people arguing with a dog. There’s really not so much being said.

    This is kinda baffling, is what I’m getting at. It looks like almost nothing’s been said so people are furiously attacking things that haven’t. 🤷

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      For real. It happens constantly. There’s a lot of sealions out there who take the existence of a meme as an invite to a debate.

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          You are!

          Don’t just vote - go out on the streets and demand that the Dems condemn the genocide and to stop sending military aid to Israel if they actually want your vote!

          If you won’t risk having your rights taken away on the grounds of literal genocide - what would you risk them for?

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            Right, because the alternative somehow isn’t “genocide, but also you lose even more of what little power you still have over this supposed democracy.”

            Even if this election doesn’t let us end the genocide, one option is actively threatening to use military force against political dissidents, which tends to make it even harder to push for a change in foreign policy.

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              Some of my rights have already been taken away under the current Supreme Court and I’m not willing to risk the rights of myself and others for the sake of some self-righteous quest.

              Finally, I respect you for going mask off - you’re not willing to lose your freedom for somebody outside your country - you believe your lives cost more than theirs and doing anything that puts you at risk is not worthwhile.

              We can’t completely dismantle the system in a week so what else can we do right now?

              Have you tried taking direct action against weapon manufacturers? Going to Harris rallies and calling her out for supporting genocide? Convincing others to take drastic measures instead of just voting for the lesser evil? Those are small things that actually help dismantle the system - voting doesn’t.

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      The communists are really trying to get lefties to not vote, giving the election to Trump.

      Supposedly all to make a statement about Gaza’s importance, something a lot of Americans actually don’t agree with simply because Gazans are not very easy to sympathize with. And that’s not only because of racism.

      Realistically of course we know that a majority of them really just want the US to decend into a messy revolution as soon as possible, so Xi and Putin can conquer their targets with weak or no US opposition.

      Of course there could be a revolution if they had the numbers but it’ll more likely be flashes of civil war, something the right is genuinely more serious about trying to win. There would be a breakdown of logistics, fracturing of territory, and terrible suffering and massive amounts of death – mostly not from combat.

      Maybe some extra delusional communists here hope to find a nice spot in the oppressive one party system they envision for the US, of course a massive long shot which would never gain broad control over the country even if one was established. Most Americans wouldn’t tolerate it and rather defer to state governance.

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        Hey I feel and agree with you about a lot here but wtf

        Supposedly all to make a statement about Gaza’s importance, something a lot of Americans actually don’t agree with simply because Gazans are not very easy to sympathize with. And that’s not only because of racism.

        How is this any way to talk about… anyone? I don’t need them to be easy to sympathize with, they are automatically entitled to it. Cuz they’re dying. Lets be real clear. Our governments involvement with Israel is fucking awful and Americans have blood on our hands. We can agree or disagree about our own politics but don’t let animosity get the better of you. We are brutalizing innocent people. You and I owe them dignity even if our lifestyles aren’t compatible with theirs or whatever.

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          Everyone knows Gazans were dead set on thrashing and killing until one of the sides was dead and gone. The vast majority of Gazans do not want peace.

          Everyone except Gazans knew which side would be dead if it went too far.

          The only reason the people of Gaza aren’t doing this to Israel is because they literally just aren’t capable. When Gazans rushed out for their killing spree, it showed very clearly where their priorities lie. Killing the enemy for no other gain was more important than absolutely every other consideration.

          Look, I have almost no sympathy for the people of Gaza. The little I have is in the form of thoughts that It would be best to get kids and mothers a safe escape route out to Egypt or somewhere else. I do recognize that Israel is still going too far and should lose support, they have really decided to become something we can’t possibly consider an ally and still tell ourselves we want to be an ethical alliance. But I really just don’t care that Gaza was the target of their brutality. Despite the power imbalance it still feels about as awful as bombardments of Berlin. I’d be curious what you think of the German lives lost. I personally don’t care. It’s a mild tragedy in comparison to what the Germans largely wanted and tolerated from their leadership.

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            Holy fuck. I’m taken aback. I have no cogent response to your lack of human consideration for the people of Palestine other than to tell you to go fuck yourself and I hope you never have to experience something like what they’re going through. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind you callous fuckwhit.

            Bet you call Russians orcs too. Jesus.

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              Bet you call Russians orcs too. Jesus.

              Yes.

              Again I’d like to ask what you think of the German lives lost in the bombardments of Berlin.

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                Berlin was the capital of the leading Axis power. Palestine is an apartheid state. Fucks your point.

                Alienating and othering people… makes you no better than a Nazi. Because when your opponent has no face and you’ve already decided their deaths are acceptable to you, other opponents will follow. You’ll make a habit of hating and being directed to hate like you already have calling humans “orcs”. Tomorrow it’ll be Iranians or Mexicans or Koreans. You’re not above it.

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      There is no greater evil than someone that supports and actively does a genocide. Hitler didn’t start out killing Jews.