• Cagi@lemmy.ca
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    Oh boy, I’m high and feeling chatty. Bag of wind incoming:

    Progressives do want better, but the moderate faction, who don’t post on Lemmy, is much larger and they think genocide is keen. If all the progressives unimously said we won’t vote for a Democrat that supplies Isreal, it might not have even had an effect on her platform, we’d just get Trump. The moderates have more money and REALLY support genocide.

    That said, using the slippery slope of Tea Party all the way to Trump has been an excuse that has now turned the moderate democrats much more conservative. The border is going to be a horror show under her. It’s a complex situation and progressives are a smaller (but growing) group. The best thing to do is keep swelling our numbers and voting. We still have to compromise with our liberal Democrat allies, but they still recognize they’d lose without us, so they are throwing progressives a few more bones every year. We are getting more candidates elected in lower positions, where the power to change really lies.

    Going from America today to the good kind of socialist state will be gradual and take generations. We have to play ball while being vocal and voting in big numbers. It has to evolve from capitalism, like we see in many other western wealthy countries. Tankies want it now, with violence to take and violence to hold. Families executed en masse to keep power for which they have no mandate. You’re really gonna wanna get that public support if you don’t want a warlord dictator in charge.

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      Progressives do want better, but the moderate faction, who don’t post on Lemmy, is much larger and they think genocide is keen. If all the progressives unimously said we won’t vote for a Democrat that supplies Isreal, it might not have even had an effect on her platform, we’d just get Trump. The moderates have more money and REALLY support genocide.

      I think the problem with moderates is that they’re not even really aware that the Gaza genocide is happening. Moderate voters are like ostriches, if they’re diligent at ignoring world news none of the bad stuff is really happening or it’s all just alarmism. Never underestimate how astonishingly willfully ignorant American moderates are.

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      That’s a long ass reply for nothing. I didn’t say not to vote for Harris. I’m not encouraging people to not vote for Harris. I never said that in my original post. I’m just saying that people expect them to do better than just being less worse than Trump on that one point. And I think that’s very valid. Don’t you? I mean is Harris untouchable when it comes to criticism? Can’t we criticize her stance on that one topic even though we want to vote for her?