Spain's king and queen pelted with mud in flood-hit Valencia
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Protesters shouted "murderer" at Felipe VI, and the prime minister had to be evacuated as the crowd grew hostile.

Summary

King Felipe VI of Spain faced a hostile crowd in Valencia, where unprecedented floods have devastated communities, leaving over 200 dead and many missing. Footage shows protesters shouting “murderer” and “shame” at the king, with some throwing objects and mud as he walked through the affected area of Paiporta.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
    9·
    3 days ago

    Much more recently, Germans put a bunch of my ancestors in ovens. I don’t hold a grudge with the ones who had nothing to do with it (i.e. almost every German alive today).

    • leftzero@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
      14·
      2 days ago

      Germany was forced to clean up house, though.

      Franco died in bed (in extreme agony, apparently; the only good thing the bastard ever did; but still), naming his successor, whose son is the current unelected parasite on the throne. The dictator’s children and grandchildren are public figures, celebrated and followed by embarrassingly large portions of the population.

      The murderers and torturers who worked for him kept their jobs, were forgiven all their crimes, and their children and grandchildren succeed them (old money and contacts in high places go a long way towards winning elections).

      The supposed “transition” merely put some new wallpaper on top of the existing structures, with a watered down constitution voted under military threats: vote for it, or else, even going as far as staging a coup attempt so that Franco’s successor could “save the day”, become a hero, and water the new supposed democracy down even further.

      Do not compare Spain to Germany. It’s extremely insulting to Germany.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
        3·
        2 days ago

        Last I checked, Franco did not sire the entire Spanish population. Who you are blaming for things that happened before any of them were born.

        • leftzero@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
          13·
          2 days ago

          Franco did not sire the entire Spanish population.

          No, but he did kill, or drive into exile or poverty and political irrelevance anyone who didn’t share his views.

          Most of the surviving population, especially the ones with economic and political power, were fascists. Their children were fascists. Their grandchildren were fascists wearing progressive masks. And their great grandchildren are fascists who’ve taken off their masks.

          When the bastard said he left everything “tied up and well tied up” he wasn’t kidding.

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
            2·
            2 days ago

            No, but he did kill, or drive into exile or poverty and political irrelevance anyone who didn’t share his views.

            Those people were also Spanish. The ones you condemn for what they did to your ancestors. So shouldn’t you be in favor of that?

              • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
                2·
                2 days ago

                I’m just going with your reasoning.

                So there are good Spanish people that are still descended from the evil people who did things to your ancestors and they don’t deserve contempt?

                Because that goes against everything else you’ve said.

          • ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.placeEnglish
            1·
            2 days ago

            Sure mate. I guess you know half or more of spain population to say so…

            What you apparently forgot to mention is that even in Germany or Italy, where they “cleaned” the place of fascism are dealing with a raise in fascism. Maybe your vision is slightly biased.