JD Vance said that ‘American power comes with certain strings attached’

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  • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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    3 days ago

    Sabre rattling, or legit threat?

    Their negotiation position within NATO isn’t absolute, so I think the most likely response is the EU agreeing to look at it, and that Trump is smart and handsome, and then mostly doing whatever they were going to do anyway.

  • nednobbins@lemmy.ml
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    This seems like an insane threat.
    The US is the primary beneficiary of NATO. Does he expect all those countries will keep hosting US military bases if NATO drops?

    • deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz
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      Are they actually US bases or are they actually NATO bases?

      If the latter, then it’d just be case of “my swipe card doesn’t work anymore”.

  • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    Is the presumptive VP speedrunning boy who cried wolf? If the US is going to pull out of NATO, I doubt it’ll be over pennyante shit like 𝕏itter regulation.

  • Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml
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    hes not as pathological with his lies as his orange fuckbuddy but it makes his statements suspect

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    World Wars ‘hero’ pass revoked.

    Go fuck yourselves. Misinformation and money over world peace, fuck you and everyone who thinks this was something you could dismiss for a lying fascist to tank your economy and kill your neighbours while killing people elsewhere.

    • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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      Are you saying NATO is for or against World Peace? The Global North loves NATO for solidifying Imperialist power, the Global South hates NATO because the Global South is the target of said Imperialism, and NATO solidifies that system of global exploitation.

    • Korkki@lemmy.world
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      Yay for the American oligarchs

      Yay, for Europeans banking everything from security, economy, foreign policy to continuation of transatlantism and therefore making every US problem and shakeup our problem. Not to even speak of the many occasions when US tries to use it’s power over Europe to shank Europe for US’s own gain.

  • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    The dissolution of NATO would be fantastic for the Global South to no longer have a military alliance of Imperialists lording over the world, but I doubt Trump would actually follow through with that. This is a nothingburger, the collapse of NATO will not come from twitter drama.

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    Do we think Vance is stupid enough to not understand that NATO primarily benefits the US? If “Europe” is cut off from the US, they’re going to make deals with China and (to a lesser extent) Russia. Trump obviously doesn’t understand shit, but Vance is the puppet of Peter Thiel, who you’d think would know better.

    • frozenspinach@lemmy.ml
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      Do we think Vance is stupid enough to not understand that NATO primarily benefits the US?

      Right, regardless of any broader foreign policy view, Vance should at least understand it in purely cynical terms for bargaining leverage.

      But I think blindly grappling toward tariffs and no NATO is part of the instinct for attacking liberalism and neoliberalism in a big hot tangled mess of reactionary instincts rather than an intentional road to a different vision.