Summary

Following Donald Trump’s recent election victory, Google searches for “4B,” a South Korean feminist movement advocating a “no sex, no dating, no marriage, no children” stance, surged in the U.S.

The 4B movement, popular among young women on social media, promotes individual resistance against conservative politics and the erosion of reproductive rights.

The trend reflects a broader ideological divide between young men and women in the U.S., where women under 30 are significantly more liberal than men.

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    What?

    You have to be a special kind of stupid to advocate for punishing men because Trump won.

    Sane people should not let this interfere with them starting a family. I guess that’s why you can’t understand my point.

    Also gonna block you, it’s clear you’re too far gone from these forums.

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      If women aren’t having sex with you, it isn’t a punishment. Nobody owes you sex.

      If you want it, earn it. Don’t be an incel.

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        If you want it, earn it

        I don’t know if telling people they need to “earn” sex like it’s transactional is a great thing. Further I don’t think telling people sex is a form of payment is great.

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      You have to be a special kind of stupid to miss the point of this movement so extremely. These women don’t want to start families until they feel they have control and safety over their own bodies. Fuck off, facist.

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        What? Women don’t want to start families until they can be sure they can get an abortion? And you speak for all of them on the matter?

        Lol. I think you’re too far gone, buddy.

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            Yeah, that’s about the response I would expect from someone like you.

            Gonna block you now. You need to spend less time on these forums to fix your worldview.

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              Yellow-bellied coward. Come back here! Fight me on the internet so that i can feel like a big man!!

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        The movement is great; this thread did connect it to the start of Idiocracy for me though. Smart people having less kids and dumb people breeding like rabbits. I fear this movement has all the potential of limiting the left from reproducing while the right keeps right on going. Gives one pause.

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          So what, our only option is for people capable of pregnancy to shit out kids to outnumber facists?

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            Not at all what I suggested. I also believe that this is a good movement. But sometimes there are other side effects.

            The reality is many right leaning folks follow religious beliefs that encourage large families and discourage birth control, so be default they do “shit out more kids than the other side” and thus that is why the status Quo for the right was preserved for so many generations, arguably right up until WW2 and the information age when knowledge turned the tide. And the right knows knowledge turned the tide, hence why a large part of Project 2025 is about crippling the education system.

            I believe we need to have less kids to reduce population and practice degrowth, frankly. I believe MAGA idiots and any man that voted for Trump do deserve this cock block. I am just also seeing where this may backslide. It’s good to keep looking at all possibilities.