• There are a frightening number of systems that don’t allow “-”, which isn’t even an edge case. A lot of people - mostly women - hyphenate their last names on marriage, rather than throw their old name away. My wife did. She legally changed her name when she came of age, and when we met and married years later she said, “I paid for money for my name; I’m not letting it go.” (Note: I wasn’t pressuring her to take my name.) So she hyphenated it, and has come to regret the decision. She says she should have switched, or not, but the hyphen causes problems everywhere. It’s not a legal character in a lot of systems, including some government systems.

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      It boggles my mind how so many websites and platforms incorrectly say my e-mail address is ‘invalid’ because it has an apostrophe in it.

      No. It is NOT invalid. I have been receiving e-mails for years. You just have a shitty developer.

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        worst thing is, the regex to check email has been available for decades and it’s fine with apostrophies

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          There are many regexes that validate email, and they usually aren’t compliant with the RFC, there are some details in the very old answer on SO. So, better not validate and just send a confirmation, than restrict and lock people out, imo

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          Well, and remember: If in doubt, send them an e-mail. You probably want to do that anyways to ensure they have access to that mailbox.

          You can try to use a regex as a basic sanity check, so they’ve not accidentally typed a completely different info into there, but the e-mail standard allows so many wild mail addresses, that your basic sanity check might as well be whether they’ve typed an @ into there.

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              Yeah, I’m just saying that the benefit of using such a regex isn’t massive (unless you’re building a service which can’t send a mail).

              a@b is a syntactically correct e-mail address. Most combinations of letters, an @-symbol and more letters will be syntactically correct, which is what most typos will look like. The regex will only catch fringe cases, such as a user accidentally hitting the spacebar.

              And then, personally, I don’t feel like it’s worth pulling in one of those massive regexes (+ possibly a regex library) for most use-cases.

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      I have come across a shockingly large amount of people who not only have a hyphenated last name but also have a hypenated first name! Dealing with every new computer system is like a new adventure

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      And you’d think a simple solution is just leave out the hyphen when you put you name in, but that can also lead to problems when the system is looking for a 100% perfect match.

      And good luck if they need to scan the barcode on your ID.

      • Then the first part is interpreted (in the US, anyway) as a middle name, not as part of the last name. I did run into a recently married woman who did that: dropped her middle name, moved her last to the middle, and used her spouse’s last name.

        More commonly, places that don’t take hyphens tend to just run the two names together: Axel-Smith becomes AxelSmith.

        Programmers can be really dumb.

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          As someone who’s mexican I encounter that more than one would think since I have 2 last names and it gets weird sometimes since I also have a middle name.

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          My mom didn’t hyphenate, but she does include her maiden name when writing her full name, after her middle name. It never even occurred to me that that’s uncommon.

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      so John\r Doe ? depending on the software, when it gets printed, the carriage return will moves the cursor to the start of the line without moving a line down, becoming \x20Doe.

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    It’s impossible to represent that on paper. It could be misrepresented as a specific number of spaces. Depending on the position on the paper, it may also be hard to tell if the carriage return comes with the line feed. Unless you want the document to be in ASCII or EBCDIC, it’s like writing an ambiguous math problem where the answer is different depending on how you were taught about the order of operations. Don’t do this to your kid, Abcde.

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    Unix or dos format?

    Anyway, you probably need to put a backslash before it to indicate line continuation.

    But wouldn’t it be better to use something more traditional, such as <br>?

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    I really can’t even begin to properly explain this because it’s just so many layers of intuition. No, you absolutely cannot have a line break in your name. That’s not a letter. That said, I’m fully prepared for someone to give me an example of some writing system that uses line breaks for unique purposes apart from spaces.

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    “We call her Carrie, because of the carriage return.”

    You can also try to give the child NULL as middle name for additional fun.