Summary

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and Russian President Vladimir Putin spoke by phone for the first time since December 2022, with Scholz condemning Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and its use of North Korean troops as a “grave escalation.”

Scholz urged Putin to withdraw troops and negotiate a “fair and lasting peace,” emphasizing Germany’s continued support for Ukraine.

Putin blamed NATO’s “aggressive policy” and insisted peace must reflect “new territorial realities” of occupied Ukrainian land.

Amid growing political and economic pressures, Scholz faces criticism over his handling of the war and upcoming elections.

  • MrNesser@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    If Putin is pulling in foreign troops to fight his war then ukraines allies should start shipping troops over.

        • Syntha@sh.itjust.works
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          2 hours ago

          If they want to sign up to fight in Ukraine, they can go and fight in Ukraine. Calling for others to fight in Ukraine is a completely different thing.

          • Kbobabob@lemmy.world
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            If only we could sign up for the military then decide what we do and where we do it for ourselves while we’re there, but that’s not how it works.

      • Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca
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        6 hours ago

        Do you think that citizens of a nation can’t make any calls on how their professional soldiers are deployed unless they are soldier themselves? What fucking cognitive dissonance is this?

        • bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          You are accusing the other guy of cognitive dissonance? Interesting. Anybody who is calling for others to go to war somewhere should be answered with laughter or that statement. And by the way, citizens of a nation don’t decide much about war and peace.

        • Syntha@sh.itjust.works
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          I think calling for your own men to be thrown into the meat grinder is unacceptable unless you’re willing to lead the charge.

    • Crazyblu@lemmy.zip
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      What a great idea, im shocked no one thought of it sooner, surely it wont create any more escalations

        • Ech@lemm.ee
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          If we’re trying to avoid WWIII, yes. It sucks and is unfair, but the responsible choice isn’t always the fair choice.

          • LANIK2000@lemmy.world
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            I’d invite you to finish your thought. Because the logical conclusion of that is giving them everything. That’s the only way to “avoid” WW3 according to that logic. This also happens to be exactly how WW2 started, food for thought.

            I’d also like to draw your attention to the fact that Putin barely reacts to Ukraine gaining ground. Sinking of the Moskva, invading their territory, saying they’ll get nukes one way or another. He’s a coward that only advances when he thinks he can get away with it. It’s why this war even started. He seriously thought it would be a 3 day operation and that everyone would quickly forget about it.

          • Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca
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            The responsible choice is to not appease. Putin can decide if he wants to escalate against Germany and NATO.

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        Ye, we should keep appeasing Putin to avoid further escalations. Cause that worked the last time

      • LANIK2000@lemmy.world
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        Putin has only ever escalated when his actions didn’t have any consequences. Notice how he does crazy shit whenever support gets weaker, but when Abrams, ATACMS or F16 arrived, it was met with almost radio silence. Putin is a fucking coward and we need to keep pushing!

        Edit: Oh yea! Also barely reacted to Ukraine saying it wants nukes, be it NATO’s or their own.

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        In fact, the “Ukraine war” title doesn’t really do it justice then does it.

        Maybe they should rebrand it, call it a different War, maybe something that reflects the whole World that gets involved. If there’s been a couple before, just stick a number 3 on the end. Sorted.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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          Can it not end in explosions far bigger than the two explosions that ended the one with the number two please?

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            Yeah fingers crossed. I’m rather hopeful it won’t. That would really suck.

            For all my sarcasm around what the war will be referred to in the history books, I’m hoping it will be a footnote in history and not one of the future’s biggest Wikipedia pages like the last one was.