• BadmanDan@lemmy.worldOP
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    1 month ago

    How is reporting what PEOPLE filled out in exit polls, shifting blame? These are just facts.

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      1 month ago

      How are you using exit polls to find out about why non-voters didn’t vote?

      Did everyone say they were politically engaged as they were leaving a polling location?

      Or are you using logic to determine everyone that just voted was politically engaged, and those who didn’t are politically disengaged?

      Cuz like, yeah, obviously that’s true…

      But what matters is why they’re politically disengaged and how we can get the to engage again.

      A very very easy way, would be to make sure the next candidate agrees with Dem voters more than Republican voters.

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          1 month ago

          “following politics” is not the same as “voter engagement”.

          Someone that never pays attention but votes R every two years like clockwork for example.

          They’d be “do not follow closely” on that, but if they 60 years old and voted R every election since they’re were 18…

          How exactly are they “politically disengaged”?

          They’re still voting, just not paying attention.

          Like, there are loads of over things we’re going to have to clear up for you to understand, but getting that difference is step 1.

          If you understand this mistake, we can probably move forward and cover other stuff. But if you don’t get this comment, nothing past it is going to be productive.

          A lot of this is coming from the horrible headline that co flates the two, and is outright false.

          So far trump has the most votes, he literally won with the politically engaged, because those are the people who voted.

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      1 month ago

      You have to understand, the people who constantly attacked Harris before the election now have to figure out some way to make her just as bad as Trump, to excuse their own behavior. Is it disgusting? Yes. Is it reprehensible? Yes. Is it absolutely predictable as a means of trying to escape responsibility for the rancid shit hurricane that will be Trump Part 2? Yes.

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          1 month ago

          “Plenty” was not enough. The pre-election criticism looks like it worked exactly as intended.

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        Yeah I’ve been seeing the exact same thing, and I think it will be interesting to see them gradually unravel in the coming months.

        You can see that all of the astroturfing, bot accounts vanished after Election Day, and all of the useful idiots are left to try to fight the cognitive dissonance they’re feeling after seeing the immediate insanity of Trump since winning.

        Unfortunately, if they actually are progressives, they will likely have a much harder time ignoring the cognitive dissonance than conservatives (who seem to excel at that ability). They’re in for some real psychic pain when they witness Trump’s actions in Palestine.

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          “those leftist rubes not voting for my party, well jokes on them cause I just imagined the other guys doing worse”

          I’m not looking forward to Trump, but this is the path the Democrats paved by their own actions. Blaming the voters is not a real strategy for anything other than nursing bruised ego.

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      1 month ago

      And how are they polling these non-voters at exit polls if they did not vote? Odd dog. The story is blame shifting bullshit, what Democrats love doing whenever they can’t manage to run a decent candidate or election