I ended up paying for it because, frankly, expecting Youtube to be completely free and fighting how it could be paid for is kinda crazy. We’re just used to it being free but running Youtube is expensive. I watch hours of Youtube nearly every day and don’t use Crunchyroll nearly as much so why am I ok paying for that but not Youtube?
Yes, if they do actually start pushing ads then I’m going to wonder what the hell I’m paying for but for the time being I’m ok with paying for a service. I only started paying for it recently, to be fair, but I get it.
If you want YouTube to keep existing, you should pay for it. That’s why I use adblocker.
So you don’t want it to keep existing(use of ad blocker because you don’t pay for it) but still use it because you…don’t like it? There’s always Nebula if you want to make a point, but not if your point is that you’re an entitled little weirdo.
I use nebula and a handful of other platforms. But of course most creators are exclusively available on YouTube.
Ok so you use Youtube and just think it should be free because…?
I want youtube to fail. I want content creators to move on to other platforms.
So you don’t want a free place to upload videos? … why? Is it just because it’s Google or too big or why?
I love the idea of a free place to upload videos, I just wish there was a way without as many ads or with a cheaper ad free prem.
I still didn’t get why you paid
Because it is a service, not a favour. Keep up.
Give an inch, they take a mile
Instead of trying to make money, they should be looking at how to operate without it
Peertube is an example of figuring this out
How to operate without money? Hosting countless hours of high-quality video on demand and streaming it to your computer at highspeed? Are you high?
I had never heard of Peertube before your comment and it sounds great! It also puts a lot on the content creator, though, and regardless of whether Youtube should follow that model or not how would you expect them to make that change? Just suddenly tell every creator that they must start self-hosting? Genius, that’ll go over so well!
Peertube themselves are saying that they don’t want to replace Youtube, simply to offer alternatives and choice(which I’m cool with).
The transition would be saving videos users watch on their devices not just creators
However it’s just one path, if Google’s engineers find a better solution then they can do that.
How to operate without money?
Have the public libraries host the peoples internet. There are options if you can think outside your little Gmail inbox.
I don’t use Gmail, and in fact my email isn’t attached to any big company. I know you couldn’t have known that but still.
So now you want to shift all this content onto poorly funded public libraries? Do you have any idea how difficult all that would be? Do you have any idea how much content is on Youtube? And that’s not to mention how much bandwidth a person would need to be able to send out the content they’re hosting to tens of thousands of people at once.
You’re living in a dreamland. Other options can start these things from scratch but Youtube is not about to make their system infinitely more complex and unreliable just for you and the small handful of other people who are high on their tiny corner of the internet. You’re asking me to think and you haven’t done the bare basics of it yourself.
It depends how many hours per month you use it I guess.
I am fine paying for Netflix (it is quite cheap here as well) which I watch probably at least 20-30 hours per month but not for youtube which I use for the music maybe an hour per week or less.
YouTube frequency of commercials is unacceptable. If they were to play a commercial every half an hour or so, I would say it is too often but I would understand it.
They don’t, they try to play a commercial every other song start, so every 7-10 minutes. They are taking a piss.
I don’t get any commercials now and I use it for all kinds of stuff from educational videos to hours and hours of things like D&D streams. It’s all worth it.
You pay nothing for it and complain about commercials. I don’t want to go shilling for corporations but whining about Youtube paying the bills is just sad, bud.
Read again. Slowly.
You responded to my comment about being ok with paying to not get ads by saying that one ad every thirty minutes would be too much for this service you just expect to get for free. It’s not a necessary utility, deal with it.
No amount of reading comprehension on my end will make up for the lack of it on yours.
You read it. Now try to understand what you read.
Yikes.
At the end of the day, Google is just going to double dip and take your money, and still sell your data.
They are, first and foremost, an ad company. Their money maker is the data they get from you; your viewing habits and whatever they can scrape from your computer.
Have you tried vi music? Free on fdroid,open source,and its YouTube music ad free. Its quite nice.
edit: for context, I have 7000 hours of uninterrupted streaming on YouTube. It’s been well worth the cost to me. But this is with the model being ad-free. If that ever changed I would need to re-evaluate my position, but I do like that my subscription can give support to creators (support which is larger per view than that of an ad user) at the same time.
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A great many hours.
Is it your use of YouTube?
Premium, yeah
That’s precisely what I meant. For so many hours it may as well be worth it. Not for an occasional user.
smarttube.app
On firefox I’ve been occasionally seeing ads leak into videos lately but refreshing usually fixes it.
I"m just going to watch youtube less.
I subscribed to Nebula instead
Clipious + invidious (Wish Piped worked) ftw
I will not use youtube and use ads. The sooner they break my adblocker, the sooner i won’t be on their platform
I really don’t think they understand this… If an ad starts playing on YouTube I just turn it off and see why my ad blocker isn’t working. If it doesn’t work I simply don’t watch the video. I had no desire to switch to Firefox because Chrome was just working for me, but then it didn’t work. There’s no way in hell I’m sitting here with my adhd addled brain, with my 4 year old phone in my hands watching for 30 seconds why I need a brand new acura.
The only time I’ve ever willingly watched an ad was tiktok. Because they know I can simply swipe and skip it, but sometimes the sponsored content is creative and entertaining.
They do understand it. They just believe the number of people who will do it are small enough to be worth it.
I guess. And you might be right. But the end goal of enshittifying everything is going to bottle out into unusable tech and the death of innovation.
And sadly, they’re probably right. Just look at how many people are willing to sit there mindlessly absorbing messages from their corporate masters.
google just made it so ad blockers using their engine will not work the same… probably why it was working fine then it didn’t
You’re part of less than 10% of the people watching YouTube, and you’re in a 10% they won’t care about because you aren’t making them money anyhow.
They are also on here instead of reddit, so they are really in much more rarefied air.
Newpipe!!!
Ads have started to straight up break the internet for me. I can go to websites and they’ll complain about my ad blocker, and the only help I get is “disable your extensions.” I don’t even have any extensions! No ad block! But sites still curl up and die on me.
Is it because my browser is hardened? Is it Linux? Do I have to fork over private data to use a site and if I don’t they pretend the issue is ad blockers?
Well, Google sure is trying to take us in the direction of “you have to log in to Chrome to use the internet”.
Why paying for no longer having an ad free experience, if you can have a really ad free YouTube for free?
YouTube is a monopoly. The reason no one really uses multiple platforms to upload videos at the same level as YouTube is because it was run for a long time at a lose to push out all competition. I have no simpthy.
I didn’t use adblockers when they had occasional normal ad breaks. Now when I have to watch on a TV app its just a garbage experience.
Yep I know but our main entertainment device is an Apple TV.
Subscribe to Nebula instead.
Supporting the creators, yeah, because thats what Google built their empire on top of.
Caring about people.
Most creaters (even smaller ones) doesn’t care about revunue (YT creaters get paid if they’re in YPP) loss from adblockers and lm pretty sure YouTubers also use adblock instead of paying Premium
Actually the premium user is worth more to creators because a premium user gives them a bigger slice than ad users.
If only we could directly support the people we wanted to… Oh wait.
Well you can actually. For example there is channel memberships.
Prefer Patreon or other means. YT takes 30% of that money, and including bs like processing fees that’s more like 36%. Patreon’s share is 12%.
And Ko-Fi takes between 0-5%.
And LibrePay is also good
Damn, I thought patron was around 7%
I ❤️ FreeTube
Ngl, I run Firefox and the usual suite of adblockers and haven’t experienced any issues. I do the same on my phone (Firefox in “desktop mode”).
