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    Not to play devil’s advocate (which is what people say beforr they play devil’s advocate) is this clickbait or is there substance to the article. Bastard and innumerable others like him deserve to be punished, but I’m interested in the takr

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      Ironically, the GOP has bought it now that they coronated Trump?

      It’s a bit amusing that all the white and not so white lies are now actual belief amongst the leadership. Maybe they’ll end up deconstructing them…

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      Law/justice is also dead, especially as folks stop believing in any piece of state evidence.

      Two seconds later it could be you or me who are picked up and demonized for random stuff.

      Truthfully this is my image state power. They make shiat up 100% of the time. So it’s not a question of is it true or not. It’s a question of how they are lying. Like a puzzle to be solved or exposed for the entertainment, but even that eventually grows old. Oh a cop MSM or a politician corpo said it … pfft!

      Citizens don’t believe anything out of the State or Media. Obviously not a healthy situation when everyone is considered an actor.

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        Truthfully this is my image state power. They make shiat up 100% of the time.

        Citizens don’t believe anything out of the State or Media.

        This is not how most people view information from the state or media. There’s a much higher degree of skepticism than in the past, sure, but most people aren’t going to simply believe every cop (or especially every journalist) is lying 100% of the time.

        I don’t think it does the left any favors to take this stance, either. It makes us look contrarian (because it is contrarian) rather than grounded in reality.

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      Wtf. Journalism is definitely not dead. We just need to stop linking to corporate news outlets.

      Zateo, democracy now, the intercept, truth out, common dreams, etc. There’s loads of great media outlets out there…

      Maybe we should just ban the corporate ones from this community? Or create a new community that only allows links to nonprofit news outlets?

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    18 hours ago

    Corporate media is going to protect their advertisers by shotgunning bullshit articles trying to change the narrative

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    It couldn’t be because we’ve been starved of seeing anything resembling actual justice could it?

    Horrible people do horrible things and have been getting away with it since before I was born. No wonder people are reacting the way they are.

    Being handsome doesn’t hurt, but people like him for what he did. He could be a hunchback and there’d be supportive quasimodo memes I’m sure.

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    They’re trying every angle they can think of to avoid admitting that people didn’t react negatively to this because literally everyone in the country has been negatively affected by people like that CEO.

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      If I believed in a deep state (which I categorically do not) NYT would be part of it.

      I do, however, believe in giant media companies funded by the 1%, who have just lost one of their own to one of the plebs, staffed by management who will steer things in the needed direction. Any doubt I had of that has been destroyed by their coverage of Gaza.

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        If I believed in a deep state (which I categorically do not)

        It’s very real, it’s just not anything like what far-right conspiracy theorists think it is[1][2][3].

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      people didn’t react negatively to this because literally everyone in the country has been negatively affected by people like that CEO.

      Also outside the US country. I’m Brazilian, I’ve been following the news about this event, and I can’t help but notice there’s a hope inside me that this event could somehow result in CEOs all around the world (especially in the southern hemisphere) changing and ditching their greed. Well, of course it’s very unlikely to happen, maybe I have some tiny optimistic side buried under tons of massive pessimism of mine.

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        They won’t, they’ll tighten their security. Anyone who goes against the shareholders will be removed and replaced by somebody who will maximize profits at all costs.

        Doesn’t mean there won’t be copycats who are successful. A whole lot of people have been wronged and the justice system doesn’t work.

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        In another sense: these CEOs are the people responsible for infiltrating other countries with the shitty US model of healthcare.

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        It won’t happen, best we can hope for is that it tempers the greed for a bit.

        It would need to happen a few (dozen) more times to effect real change.

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        changing and ditching their greed

        No they won’t because while they of course are greedy, it’s not really greed which is fueling that on the systemic level, but the inherent capitalism mechanism to concentrate capital. Companies compete and that competition ultimately leads to either monopoly or formation of cartel, the ones with more profits are the winners and the losers get eliminated from the market.

        What they will do, is to hire more bodyguards, isolate themselves from society even more and fund more propaganda like the article in topic.

        The only thing that can change things, as proven historically, is not adventurism (however cool is to dish at least minuscule part of overdue justice) nor the spontaneous outrage, but the organized workers power threatening the capitalist class and their government servants.

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    It’s NYT. If you can’t defend Thompson as being worth keeping alive, may as well play the woke race card and say we only like him because he’s an attractive white male.

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      Knowing our history, it’s still funny to me that I-talians are considered plain ol’ white now.

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    The classic scapegoats aren’t there this time. Can’t blame him being the wrong race, wrong economic class, wrong mentally, wrong physically, or wrong sexually. Now people are actually looking at the issue that caused the “crime” and that’s not good to some people.

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      Luigi is deff what the media has fed society as “CHAD”

      Not even being ironic here tbh

      Now the only explanation why Chad would do this is “he had bad back”

      Alright… go on…

      FDR was also part of the elite class and he had his own issues…

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      Pretty successful and well off kid, definitely not just someone desperate and broke they can tear apart, and he’s articulating his position against these fuckers. It’s really beautiful. A folk hero.