• Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    The French people do not tolerate shit, the Americans on the hand will wallow in it and say work harder for less.

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      It’s one of the main reasons our owner class has sought to mock the French with “surrender” slurs and “freedom fries.”

      They’d very much like the citizenry to forget Frances contribution to America and “western culture” over the last 200 years lest they get any ideas.

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      I’m not sure I would characterize it that way. It was a bourgeois revolution, lead by the bourgeoisie, who were not starving. Same with the American Revolution. These were revolutions led by & funded by people who owned the means of production.

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    From what I’ve been seeing throughout the years, I’d say give it time. Change usually takes a bit to get started and things usually hit a low point before a breaking point.

    The next four years of Tweedle-dee and Tweedle-dum running things could trigger something especially if they try to go through with that P-'25 BS. As it is, the indiscriminate mass deportation in it that they are planning (including natural-born) could easily be a bit of a powder-keg for starting a massive protest.

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      This is overall distribution by percentage, so aggregate total represented wouldn’t have an impact. If it were to have an impact, I think we’d have hoped it would mean the slope was more even.

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        This is overall distribution by percentage, so aggregate total

        what I mean is that if total land area is 1 acre, and 80% of people own 1% of the land, they’re starving
        if total land area is 5000 acres, and 80% of people (same population size) own 1% of the land, then everyone is well fed on the same inequality

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    I mean…there was an attempt. The chronically online seem to think a revolution in the USA would be socialist, but these are Americans we’re talking about. Its either be back to 1800s style libertarian ethics or fascism, corporatism, something like that, decimating government power not increasing it.

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    Tesla employee count: 140,473

    SpaceX employee count: 13,000

    Elon Musk could transfer $1 million in stock to each of his 153,473 employees,
    which would cost him $153 billion and he would still have a net worth of $302 billion!
    He’d still be the richest man in the world and would still have $56 billion more than Jeff Bezos!

    And some of that money he has came from under-paying factory workers at his Fremont, California assembly plant. For a long time the hourly rate was $22 (not sure what it is now) but auto plants in the Midwest were paying that or better and he was paying $22 per hour in one of the highest cost of living areas in the country.

    Elon is now worth more than Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates combined.

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      Tbf, if he transfered that stock, the price of it would crash as the employees sold it. He’d have to do some kind of slow transfer over several years.

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        All businesses should be worker or consumer cooperatives. Capital shouldn’t be divorced from stakeholders like in our current capitalist system, but rather socially owned by the direct stakeholders like in Mutualism.

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      And some of that money he has came from under-paying factory workers at his Fremont, California assembly plant. For a long time the hourly rate was $22 (not sure what it is now) but auto plants in the Midwest were paying that or better and he was paying $22 per hour in one of the highest cost of living areas in the country.

      All those employees were given stock options as part of their total compensation which those other auto factories did not give to everyone.

      All the early floor workers would be multi millionaires if they kept their initial stock, not counting using the employee program to buy more at a discounted rate or further employee incentives.

      Anyone who joined a little after the Model S was being sold and the early model 3 time up to around mid 2020 would have around a quarter million if they didn’t aquire any additional stock.

      I wouldn’t be surprised if Tesla as a company created the most employee millionaires of any recent USA company due to giving every employee stock as part of their compensation.

      Early SpaceX employees are in a similar boat, but it’s harder to get rid of their shares since it’s private so it’s harder to quantify it.

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    The “wealth distribution” theory of unrest is so thoroughly debunked its insane to see people who still think in these terms. Smh.

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    It’s simple, fractions of the populace(both sides) are actually in a cult, they do what the cult says, they ignore anyone outside the cult if they go against their cults leadership, and they vote with how the cult tells them to vote. The country is not statistically a cult nation, but the cults know if they can get 1/8th of the populace to do what they say, it takes at least 1/8th of the populace to stand against them, and we don’t have a leader, or even a coalition standing against them… It’s just 1/8th of the populace crazy out of their minds voting their cults desires into reality, and it’s happening with multiple groups, it’s not even half the total population, but when approximately only half the voters actually vote, it doesn’t take much to get control.

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    can’t say I’m a huge fan of Nick Cruse or the rest of RBN, but a graph’s a graph I guess

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    I have always said that so long as McDonalds has a hot burger for a few bucks on every street corner, there will not be a revolution in the US.

    Rather than starving to death, we have an obesity epidemic along with an opiate epidemic, which prevents the revolution from getting up off the couch.

    Not trying to claim a conspiracy here, just the way things are.

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      McDonald’s is expensive now.

      A double cheeseburger was a dollar a few years ago, sure. But it’s almost that much for a single nugget these days.

      A hash brown is 3.50 at the one by my office.

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        Looked it up:

        McDonald’s double cheeseburger hasn’t been a dollar for over 15 years (started in 2002, and in 2008, the McDouble replaced it, which had one fewer slice of cheese). And the McDouble itself stopped being a dollar in 2013, over a decade ago. Bit more than “a few years ago”–I think Covid screwed up everyone’s perception of time more than usual, lol.

        That said, I get lunch at work several times a week at Wendy’s and always pay less than $5, not too bad all things considered imo.

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      Yeah, the gap between the wealthiest and everyone else literally does not matter at all, when it comes to ‘motivation for revolution’.

      The overall level/amount/condition of poverty is what matters. And let’s be real, things are not nearly as bad in the US today as they were in France before the French Revolution. Not even close.

      Fact is, if you magically bumped everyone up so that no one was making less than $75k a year, the wealth gap would be essentially identical to what it is now, because the gap between zero and 75k is nothing compared to the gap between 75k and hundreds of billions. But no one would be suffering in poverty, so would anyone care about the wealth gap, then? I seriously doubt it.

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      Just offer free food and specially free opiates if they start a revolution. There’s many means to a end

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      It only takes about 3% of the population to push effective revolution. That’s still over ten million people. We might be getting close.