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    we should see nearly every shooter who faces justice getting the death penalty

    I’m not sure what you mean by this, is this what you believe? I should add that the death penalty is rare to end up being sentenced and that it isn’t justified in every case as well.

    I’m saying that the death penalty is already rare, then you need to be at least 18, you need to survive the shooting, and then you need to have a jury mostly unanimously agree to sentence you

    Also it’s not like Mangione has been sentenced with the death penalty, these articles are reacting to the possibility of facing charges that could lead to the death penalty, which has been applicable for any other first-degree murder cases, for example killing a single person during a bank robbery

    I’m just saying that the comparison is pointless. Complain about him receiving federal charges unusually, sure. But doing this “whataboutism” and referencing school shooters vs the UHC shooter is not well-founded

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      The part you cut out gives the context you are asking for.

      I’m not sure what you mean by this, is this what you believe?

      Words are hard. I get it. Accepting your argument and assuming you stand behind it… Yes. In your hypothetical world, yes, I do. Was that not your point??? That shooters don’t get perceived as receiving appropriate justice because they die or are ineligible??? is this what you believe?

      the death penalty is rare

      you fucking donkey

      No shit Sherlock. What do you think the point of the OC was???

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        22 hours ago

        Exactly, complain about the terrorism charge, not the red herring that is "he has the possibility of potentially being charged with the death penalty (as compared to a random other type of shooting?), when that’s something that is a blanket standard possibility for federal murder – A bank robber is probably not as evil as some mass shooters, but one is more eligible for the death penalty, while the mass shooter depends on the state they’re in.

        The addition of federal murder and stalking charges is critical. The fact that he will have to be trailed twice for one murder seems excessive