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Given the history of wildfires in California, someone has anti-survival traits.
I have to do other people’s jobs. Slap some tin foil on em and throw them in to help.
LAPD cops can shout and order the fires to freeze!
They could also shoot it if it does not obey!
Maybe if they all shoot the fire in the back when it’s sleeping?!
Fire is a natural part of the ecological system. You can by time, but eventually, it will happen. Building in wildlands is a recipe for disaster, if you don’t create breaks, or defencable zones. It’s not a simple problem, with a simple solution. A big part of the problem, is building all those homes there, but if you’re gonna build, then you should protect. A lot of people build in forested areas and don’t create defensible zones, because, that’s why they move there, for pretty trees.
True, it’s a multi-level fuck-up, which nature is showing us quite clearly. Solutions would not need to be that difficult, just gradually stop burning fossil fuels, stop eating meat, build responsibly and spread money evenly. Too bad that all the people getting rich from these things have a succesful propaganda campaign going on. Nature will not be tamed however, not in the foreseeable future.
Just give firefighting responsibility to the cops! Then they can show up to your kitchen fire, put it out, shoot your dog, and arrest you for complaining all in one trip!
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The new budget was increased over the previous year.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/los-angeles-mayor-karen-bass-pushes-back-criticism/story?id=117512817
lmao, what an argument for them to make. “It’s not a budget cut, the unions fought us, won, and made us hand over more money after we slashed their already hilarious low budget!”
Yeah, I don’t think taking $17m from $837m results in this. If anything, it might have something to do with those cat 1 hurricane level winds.
At least a bunch of rich fucks in Malibu and Pacific Palisades are paying the price for it.
Doesn’t help the lungs and bronchial passages of people with asthma and other breathing issues though. A lot of people will die who were nowhere near the fires.
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Apparently not insured enough to not be fretting about it.
This is incorrect.
the updated budget in November saw a $53 million increase over the previous year once the council took into account the department’s unappropriated balance calculation, which provides funds after the budget is approved.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/los-angeles-mayor-karen-bass-pushes-back-criticism/story?id=117512817
Careful. I also said this and my post was removed for misinformation. Looks like musks crew are invading.
Screenshotting this because I don’t know how to reliably link comments across instances.
"No they didn’t, it was only a budget cut until the unions fought them and forced them to hand over more budget’ isn’t exactly the win you think it is here.
Even worse, despite call numbers increasing over 5x from 1960, the fire program has been completely unable to expand since 1960 and was basically completely at the mercy of people doing brutal amounts of overtime to keep things going… until they lost the ability to pay them overtime too! The fire department is absurdly understaffed and underfunded. Imagine still making the same salary as 65 years ago, while having to do 5x the work!
While the 53 million budget increase the unions managed to grab is a good improvement, along with the ~200 more trainee firefighters it allowed them to hire but aren’t yet ready to deploy, it’s the definition of too little and too late.
High winds preventing firefighting planes and copters, low water levels since the city has let nestle steal all of it for free, electrical problems to prevent pumps from sending water from afar, and not enough man hours to manage and prevent fire conditions in the first place- as it says in the article you posted, no amount of budget could have prevented this, because there was more to play here than just the budget. But enough people and man hours to properly manage things would have done a lot to limit the scope of the disaster.
America: Funding cops to shoot black people, defunding actual helpful social needs since 1864.
Meh, same thing with healthcare. Who needs a medical professional to help a person with a mental health crisis when you can have a guy with highschool and six months of “training” put a few bullets in em?
Building houses without concrete and bricks and then located in the woods - what can go wrong.
What I don’t understand- most countries have fire fighting airplanes for these things.
How in a world US being a country with such a mighty economy - doesn’t have them or doesn’t want to use them. PatheticCan’t target properly with 100MPH winds
Bricks and mortar houses would burn, too under these circumstances.
The US absolutely does have those planes. (That’s 1 example, here are others) But high winds are keeping most of them from operating (the winds are what is spreading the fires).
They are using helicopters, but those can’t carry as much.
I don’t think you have any concept of the size of the burning area or the intense weather conditions in the western US. Months of drought conditions then 90mph wind gusts. Once a blaze is going it will jump all over the place due to the wind, making it virtually impossible to contain until the winds start to subside. Cleaning out underbrush can help, but with winds that high fires will jump directly from tree to tree. Some of these fires only took one spark to start. And the conditions will only grow more intense as climate change continues. This is not a problem that’s easy to solve.
California didn’t used to burn like this. Yeah, there were fires, but they were far more rare and didn’t affect as many people because the state wasn’t as populous and nowhere near as short of water.
As to your second statement, it’s bullshit. Wth the “mighty economy” statement has to do with anything. There’s a huge firefighting industry on the west coast and in California, both ground and air. They are using aircraft, even with a temporary stop due to high winds.
They cut ~2% of the budget. Anyone spewing this funding cut bullshit is a partisan hack.
Quit being reactionary.
that’s not what reactionary means
$17.5 million, or around 2 percent of the previous year’s budget of $837 million. It was the second-largest departmental operating cut to come out of the city’s 2024-25 fiscal year budget, which shaved funding from the majority of city departments — but not the police.
the article does say the percentage… and maybe it’s insane to cut their budget at all, given california’s recent fire problems, and they should’ve increased it by about 100%….
so, given the difference between -2% and +100%, and half the city burning down, it’s a pretty big deal.it’s not even remotely close to half of the city burning down. But given the damage estimates are running somewhere around $150 billion, it’s bad enough
the “half” figure was hyperbole… you should check out the concept.
Why do you think it’s okay to cut funding to the fire department while keeping the police(gang) force that is notorious for not actually doing anything to help it’s citizens?
Think about the priority of the
communitywealthy community members.Fires cause insurance payouts. This means big paydays when those ‘priceless’ works of art go up in smoke. You sell the land and buy somewhere without the insurance hikes. Win-win-win for the wealthy.
Crime causes property values to decline. A break in is harder to deal with. Rabble protesting for fair treatment can get violent. The homeless need to be driven from the wealthy areas so the wealthy can enjoy their champagne and caviar in peace after snorting coke off of a trafficked sex slave’s tits. Police are so very valuable for keeping the wealthy safe.
They know exactly what the right priority is… for the people who actually matter (not us.)
I suspect they could have doubled the budget and they still wouldn’t be able to control those fires.
Still it looks like it’s affecting rich people, so something will probably get done about it.
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Fires are increasing every year. It’s the lady thing that should be cut. It should’ve been the other way around.
