Summary

House Speaker Mike Johnson stated that federal aid for California’s devastating Los Angeles wildfires, which have killed at least 24 and displaced nearly 200,000 people, should come with conditions, citing alleged failures by state and local leaders.

Johnson also hinted at tying aid to debt ceiling negotiations.

Other Republican leaders, including Senators John Barrasso and Ron Johnson, expressed similar views, blaming liberal policies for exacerbating the fires.

Critics denounce these positions as cruel, given the scale of destruction, with over 12,000 buildings lost and massive evacuation orders in effect.

  • not_that_guy05@lemmy.world
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    You know California could just not pay the federal government taxes for a year and we would be back to 100 real quick.

    No reason to giving money to other red welfare states that this state earned.

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        That would be a very dangerous escalation. I love the idea of the red states finally finding out but that’s not how that would go unfortunately. We’re in this union for life for the worse.

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          It’s supposed to be for better or for worse. Lately it’s just been better if you’re a red state that refuses to invest in education and worse if you’re a blue state that actually generates money from your educated and well-paid citizens. Enough is enough.

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            You’re essentially arguing for succession. That means civil war. You can assume neither of us survive that if anyone does. This echo chamber has gotten real dumb

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                You’re a troll or an idiot if you believe that. A civil war in a country with this man nukes could be the end of humanity and would absolutely cause unbelievable devastation for California even if it somehow won so much worse than paying into federal taxes. That is a lose lose. I would think you’re a Chinese troll but even China would lose one of it’s biggest trade partners and it would be devastating for their economy

                • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  Oh well, maybe the Republicans should have thought of the consequences of their actions when they’re legitimately evil and hurting people because it makes $0.01 more money than doing the right thing.

                  Sucks to suck, Republicans need to eat shit.

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                    What bafflingly stupid evil take. Republicans are evil. Advocating for a civil war is even worse. You don’t give a shit about everyone else that suffers in the collateral damage? And you don’t think that’s evil? This community is fucked

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      The thing is that it is us, who pay the federal taxes. We would have to stop paying them and then redirect it to state government. The problem would be how California could change that?

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        The IRS can’t manage their current workload without state help, this would be very simple:

        Newsom announced that California will no longer assist the feds in unpaid tax investigations within California. Only unpaid state tax will get our state guys involved, feds actively get hindered. Californians get told to not pay their federal tax that year and that they’re safe because the feds can’t do shit. Imprison the rich who’ll pay anyway because they’re traitors, take their cash and assets for state use.

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          Fun fact this is actually somewhat similar to how the state burned out pro-Confederate individuals during the civil war. Basically taxes were paid with cash, raw, and refined materials to the Junta’s if ya sent money to the Feds it was assumed you were sending it out east to the Confederates.