Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new “king”

Update: position got backed up by an official Proton post on Mastodon, it’s an official Proton statement now. https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503

Update 2, plot-twist: they removed this response from Mastodon - seems they realize it exploded into their face!

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    Standing up for the little guy. Huh. Is that why billionaires and CEO are throwing literal tens of millions at Trump? Why he staffed his cabinet with billionaires? Why the center of his policy is tax cuts for the giga wealthy, at the expense of everyone else and the national debt, at a time where wealth inequality is literally tearing the country apart?

    https://www.axios.com/2025/01/15/trump-windfall-fundraising-500-million

    https://www.axios.com/2024/12/09/trump-wealth-cabinet-politicians-billionaires

    These are objective, public facts. Like, I’m way more conservative than Lemmy’s center and willing acknowledge any good Trump does, but what reality is this guy living in? Who is this statement for? Who the heck does he think is using Proton services? He just pissed off his employees and customers for… What?

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      Probably doesn’t want to get banned in the US… Or so my copium tells me.

      Silver lining is that Proton is owned by a non-profit.

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        I was thinking this for a second, but is this really plausible? Normally when we talk about corporations we talk about how powerful they are and how they use different nations to locate headquarters and offices in order to mitigate legal and tax obligations. We regularly talk about how governments can’t reign them in and how they act with impunity.

        But now? “They HAVE to capitulate. They are just doing it to survive.” Really? Do we really believe that? Or is it more likely that this is what they want and if they didn’t, they’d be fighting tooth and nail to stop it? I’m with the second option honestly.

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          That’s what I don’t get. If the proton CEO was actually raging MAGA, the last thing he should do, strategically, is stoke fires by stirring this up. That’s business 101.

          …He must want conservative’s ears for some kind of policy issue, maybe to the detriment of Proton’s competitors. But what?

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      Seems a lot of people share this view that somehow he’s for the little guy, despite quite clearly being for the opposite. It’s the same over the pond, there’s a paranoia held by many that the government is out to persecute the common people. Very strange on both sides, it’s almost Orwell levels of Newspeak.

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    Proton Mail --> Mail-In-A-Box

    Proton Calender --> Mail-In-A-Box

    Proton Drive --> Mail-In-A-Box

    Proton VPN --> Mullvad VPN

    Proton Pass --> Bitwarden/KeePass+Mail-In-A-Box

    Proton Wallet --> Stick with your cryptos base wallet app. Never give your private keys to any service.

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    Biden’s pick Lina Khan deserves all the credit for aggressively prosecuting anti-competitive practices. However, Gina Slater looks like someone capable of continuing that work and a legitimate admirer of Lina Khan. Yes there are ties to Vance and the FTC office is likely to end up beholden to the egomaniac in chief. So the whole “little man” thing aside (that’s baloney), that’s one person that’s not a shit stain out of all the shit stains in the incoming cabinet.

    Look Lemmy, you’re welcome to choose what you want in your life and what you don’t. But being too rigid with letting stupid opinions of a project’s founder cause you to reject everything, would have you miss the big-picture benefits of having such a project exist. If you look at this Lemmy development co-leader’s opinions on transgenderism, are you going to stop using this software that lets you converse on an LGBTQ+ safe-space instance with no involvement on a social level from said developer/founder?

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      The lemmy devs may have opinions, but they’ve never interfered with blahaj zone or anything

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      transgenderism

      At risk of going slightly off topic, trans people aren’t an -ism. It’s not an ideology, though transphobes love to frame it that way (not saying you are).

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      But being too rigid with letting stupid opinions of a project’s founder cause you to reject everything, would have you miss the big-picture benefits of having such a project exist

      That’s the truth. The reason online “communities” constantly argue and never get anything done is because everyone is focused on not doing the wrong things that they forget about doing the right things. A while ago I saw a post making fun of some chuds who compiled a list of “woke” video games that they wanted to boycott. The people in this thread deciding to leave proton because its ceo said something positive about trump once don’t strike me as much different.

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      A CEO or any kind of leader gets to determine the path that their organization takes. Slater may seem good now; but we won’t know until the proof shows up in the pudding, so you can only try to guess based on whom she take orders from. (Fwiw: I hope you’re right)

      Bourgeoisie liberals do indeed use the transgendered in the same way that they used gays back in the 1990’s, as little more than a virtue signal and now (just like back then) they retreat from that virtue signal when it no longer suites their purposes.

      Unlike the Democrats & other liberals; there is plenty proof in Lemmy’s pudding of its creators’ intentions. The generations long reconciliations that LGBTQIA people had to struggle & die to force acceptance in the western world; despite the Democrats; is now falsely appropriated to pink wash anyone/anything who disagrees like it is here.

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      Vance, the U.S. vice president-elect, has said antitrust officials should take a broader approach to antitrust enforcement, and praised the work of Federal Trade Commission Chair Lina Khan

      Reading this confuses me greatly because republicans, especially Jim Jordan from what I remember, have been harassing and preventing Lina Khan and the FTC from taking action against big corporations.

      Hell if she is doing such a great job, why fire her and replace her with a snake whose views are the antitheses of Khan’s outlook.

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    Hypothetically, if Hitler saved a child from being hit by a car would you publicly sing Hitlers praises and be happy to make positive quotes about it?

    Does being on the right side of a single issue negate everything else?

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    Too bad, I was considering their service when my VPN service ran out. Not excluding them outright, but will have to keep a eye on it.

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    well this makes me slightly less fomo’d after going for tuta and mullvad- but i’m probably jinxing it rn ;-;

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    So Proton is out.

    Sorry, I won’t trust a service that licks fascist boots.

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    Did he (the CEO) really need to do this? Orange 🍄 Guy’s probably never even heard of Proton. The transition for me from Tuta to Proton was long and rough, so I’m not prepared to jump ship just yet and really hope I won’t have to.

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    What’s that, Lassie? Another platform that’s not self hosted outing themselves as a chud? Well, I never!

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    They’re is no way Trump wrote that tweet. It is full of punctuation and clearly gets a point across. It was clearly written by someone else. Nevertheless, time to delete protonmail.

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    Can anyone recommend a decent free vpn? I can’t afford to pay for one rn and theirs is the only reputable free vpn i know of :/