Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new “king”
Update: position got backed up by an official Proton post on Mastodon, it’s an official Proton statement now. https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503
Update 2, plot-twist: they removed this response from Mastodon - seems they realize it exploded into their face!
Standing up for the little guy. Huh. Is that why billionaires and CEO are throwing literal tens of millions at Trump? Why he staffed his cabinet with billionaires? Why the center of his policy is tax cuts for the giga wealthy, at the expense of everyone else and the national debt, at a time where wealth inequality is literally tearing the country apart?
https://www.axios.com/2025/01/15/trump-windfall-fundraising-500-million
https://www.axios.com/2024/12/09/trump-wealth-cabinet-politicians-billionaires
These are objective, public facts. Like, I’m way more conservative than Lemmy’s center and willing acknowledge any good Trump does, but what reality is this guy living in? Who is this statement for? Who the heck does he think is using Proton services? He just pissed off his employees and customers for… What?
Probably doesn’t want to get banned in the US… Or so my copium tells me.
Silver lining is that Proton is owned by a non-profit.
I was thinking this for a second, but is this really plausible? Normally when we talk about corporations we talk about how powerful they are and how they use different nations to locate headquarters and offices in order to mitigate legal and tax obligations. We regularly talk about how governments can’t reign them in and how they act with impunity.
But now? “They HAVE to capitulate. They are just doing it to survive.” Really? Do we really believe that? Or is it more likely that this is what they want and if they didn’t, they’d be fighting tooth and nail to stop it? I’m with the second option honestly.
That’s what I don’t get. If the proton CEO was actually raging MAGA, the last thing he should do, strategically, is stoke fires by stirring this up. That’s business 101.
…He must want conservative’s ears for some kind of policy issue, maybe to the detriment of Proton’s competitors. But what?
OpenAI has taught me that the non-profit stuff is meaningless.
Seems a lot of people share this view that somehow he’s for the little guy, despite quite clearly being for the opposite. It’s the same over the pond, there’s a paranoia held by many that the government is out to persecute the common people. Very strange on both sides, it’s almost Orwell levels of Newspeak.
Proton Mail --> Mail-In-A-Box
Proton Calender --> Mail-In-A-Box
Proton Drive --> Mail-In-A-Box
Proton VPN --> Mullvad VPN
Proton Pass --> Bitwarden/KeePass+Mail-In-A-Box
Proton Wallet --> Stick with your cryptos base wallet app. Never give your private keys to any service.
Can’t tell if > is meant as “greater than” or “can be replaced by”
Crap. Fixed it. Thanks!
Biden’s pick Lina Khan deserves all the credit for aggressively prosecuting anti-competitive practices. However, Gina Slater looks like someone capable of continuing that work and a legitimate admirer of Lina Khan. Yes there are ties to Vance and the FTC office is likely to end up beholden to the egomaniac in chief. So the whole “little man” thing aside (that’s baloney), that’s one person that’s not a shit stain out of all the shit stains in the incoming cabinet.
Look Lemmy, you’re welcome to choose what you want in your life and what you don’t. But being too rigid with letting stupid opinions of a project’s founder cause you to reject everything, would have you miss the big-picture benefits of having such a project exist. If you look at this Lemmy development co-leader’s opinions on transgenderism, are you going to stop using this software that lets you converse on an LGBTQ+ safe-space instance with no involvement on a social level from said developer/founder?
The lemmy devs may have opinions, but they’ve never interfered with blahaj zone or anything
Precisely. And this is much in the same way coming from the CEO and Proton official accounts. Republicans use Proton, just as much as Democrats. Until I see evidence that Andy Yen’s misguided philosophy leaks into Proton’s offering itself (and not just their PR channels), I’m willing to give benefit of doubt. Part of it seems to be not wanting to get on the wrong side of their leaders. As a reminder, these are the leaders that have been given a blank cheque from both voters and the justice system to do whatever they please with dissidents.
transgenderism
At risk of going slightly off topic, trans people aren’t an -ism. It’s not an ideology, though transphobes love to frame it that way (not saying you are).
Yeah I was trying to summarize in a word how the linked comment used it, the developer was not talking badly of trans people per se, but was critical of how their group and the cause to express their identity is being misused by the ruling class. I imply that it could be transphobia, but I’m not certain if it is, even if I understand why it would be an upsetting and hurtful take for some. If there’s a better way to describe this succinctly with a more respectful framing, I’m open to alternatives.
But being too rigid with letting stupid opinions of a project’s founder cause you to reject everything, would have you miss the big-picture benefits of having such a project exist
That’s the truth. The reason online “communities” constantly argue and never get anything done is because everyone is focused on not doing the wrong things that they forget about doing the right things. A while ago I saw a post making fun of some chuds who compiled a list of “woke” video games that they wanted to boycott. The people in this thread deciding to leave proton because its ceo said something positive about trump once don’t strike me as much different.
No, it’s not only one person in the board. They confirmed their stance via their official Mastodon account. https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116
A CEO or any kind of leader gets to determine the path that their organization takes. Slater may seem good now; but we won’t know until the proof shows up in the pudding, so you can only try to guess based on whom she take orders from. (Fwiw: I hope you’re right)
Bourgeoisie liberals do indeed use the transgendered in the same way that they used gays back in the 1990’s, as little more than a virtue signal and now (just like back then) they retreat from that virtue signal when it no longer suites their purposes.
Unlike the Democrats & other liberals; there is plenty proof in Lemmy’s pudding of its creators’ intentions. The generations long reconciliations that LGBTQIA people had to struggle & die to force acceptance in the western world; despite the Democrats; is now falsely appropriated to pink wash anyone/anything who disagrees like it is here.
I get you. It’s important to remember there is nuance on topics/people you agree and disagree with, rather than jumping to “is against transgenderism”, or “agrees with Republicans on everything”.
Like you say, actions will speak louder than words. The further the Proton team can put their product and governance away from these opinions the better. The transition to non-profit structure is a positive step in that regard.
edit: forgot an important word in my comment
if actions speak louder than words, then what does it say about your pink washing attempt?
Can you elaborate on what you mean by my pinkwashing attempt?
note: I clarified my previous comment that was missing a word.
… If you look at this Lemmy development co-leader’s opinions on transgenderism, are you going to stop using this software that lets you converse on an LGBTQ+ safe-space instance with no involvement on a social level from said developer/founder?
Is the pinkwashing part when I use this opinion as an example of questioning transgenderism? I don’t personally have a problem with the opinion highlighted, but again I do not speak for everyone, and I understand not everyone would agree. The point of using this example is not about the opinion itself but what that disagreement should extend to.
Vance, the U.S. vice president-elect, has said antitrust officials should take a broader approach to antitrust enforcement, and praised the work of Federal Trade Commission Chair Lina Khan
Reading this confuses me greatly because republicans, especially Jim Jordan from what I remember, have been harassing and preventing Lina Khan and the FTC from taking action against big corporations.
Hell if she is doing such a great job, why fire her and replace her with a snake whose views are the antitheses of Khan’s outlook.
The flaw was to assume there’s a connection between what Republicans say and what they do.
Well, that’s a platform I’m leaving now.
Hypothetically, if Hitler saved a child from being hit by a car would you publicly sing Hitlers praises and be happy to make positive quotes about it?
Does being on the right side of a single issue negate everything else?
WELP
Too bad, I was considering their service when my VPN service ran out. Not excluding them outright, but will have to keep a eye on it.
well this makes me slightly less fomo’d after going for tuta and mullvad- but i’m probably jinxing it rn ;-;
So Proton is out.
Sorry, I won’t trust a service that licks fascist boots.
Is he right about the start of the anti-trust action ?
Theres the real problem with repugs. They think they are the "little guy"s
Did he (the CEO) really need to do this? Orange 🍄 Guy’s probably never even heard of Proton. The transition for me from Tuta to Proton was long and rough, so I’m not prepared to jump ship just yet and really hope I won’t have to.
What’s that, Lassie? Another platform that’s not self hosted outing themselves as a chud? Well, I never!
They’re is no way Trump wrote that tweet. It is full of punctuation and clearly gets a point across. It was clearly written by someone else. Nevertheless, time to delete protonmail.
Can anyone recommend a decent free vpn? I can’t afford to pay for one rn and theirs is the only reputable free vpn i know of :/
