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    11 hours ago

    It’s no more worrying than the misinformation being spread on Facebook and X, in large part by Russian troll farms or Murdoch’s media empire, but somehow it’s China that’s the real problem. I see no reason why anyone should be fear mongering about the dangers of using a Chinese app any more than using X.

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      11 hours ago

      I mean imo all sort narrative building and interference is worrying and from a government perspective of course foreign actions and platforms are more worrying. China and Russia being very clearly rivals if not outright enemies of the US, it is more worrying because of that.

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        6 hours ago

        And yet this ban does nothing to stop Chinese or Russian troll farms from spreading misinformation and using the outrage algorithm to further fracture the American public on American platforms.

        This legislation is not about stopping bad foreign actors, this is purely a way to protect the business interest of American social media companies.

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          I’d imagine it’s much easier for the US government to control stuff, if it wants to, when it comes to American companies. That probably plays a role.

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            What makes you think that? They haven’t so far, despite proven Russian troll farms operating on American platorms. I think you’ve inadvertently reversed the order of master and servant there.

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              What makes me think that American companies are easy to police for American government than Chinese companies? It seems a bit of a weird question in that of course that’s the case. If they want they can raid their HQ, they can (and probably do) have a relationship with these companies in intelligence gathering and law enforcement level. Companies are more willing to follow your rules if the repercussions are more severe, with their workers, hq and so on being in the US.

              It’s obvious that there’s a better ability to control and police the company, but it’s different whether they do use that ability.

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                5 hours ago

                “we could totally police American companies, it’s just that we don’t because they own all our politicians”.

                I’m glad we’re on the same page.

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                  we

                  Don’t go around assuming everyone is American

                  it’s just that we don’t

                  There’s a a lot of laws binding those companies and then there’s everything going on behind closed doors which people aren’t told about. I’m sure they’re already doing a lot of policing when it comes to narrative, data, all that sort of things. Why they let Russians act so freely, I’m not sure, I think there might’ve been an ideological or political reason behind that.

                  It’s like how American movies and shows are pushing certain narratives. I doubt there’s need for any laws and public acts to make it so, rather it’s just understood and things happen behind closed doors. How much the US can control foreign, especially say Chinese media productions, of course it’s going to be less capable of doing that.

                  Trump for example has bullied social media companies to do as he says without official acts, just threats and fear of possible action. Easier to bully local companies than foreign ones.