The conversations are amazing

  • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    46
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    2 months ago

    Reporter: [REDACTED]
    Reason: Misinformation

    Truths you find inconvenient are not misinformation, reporter.

  • Nalivai@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    8
    arrow-down
    19
    ·
    2 months ago

    Daamn, it’s so nice that nobody invented lying on Chinese internet yet, otherwise shit would be so embarrassing

  • MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    24
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    2 months ago

    Some of this stuff is dated. Chinese healthcare used to be less available and more expensive until the government put efforts in changing that fact. China’s a nation that seems to believe that they can use their government to make things better.

    • Alsephina@lemmy.mlOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      41
      arrow-down
      11
      ·
      2 months ago

      You’ll be seeing alot more China “shills” as Americans keep realizing the amount of propaganda they’ve been fed lol

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      30
      arrow-down
      9
      ·
      2 months ago

      What counts as a “shill?” Approval in leftist spaces of the PRC is rising overall, which makes sense given that they are a Socialist country, but in the broader western landscape Red Scare propaganda is still dominant.

        • Grimy@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          14
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          2 months ago

          thanks for the warning, I’ll stay away form these then

          You are in one right now. Lemmy leans pretty clearly to the left, the conservative subs literally got bullied into non-existence.

        • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          22
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          edit-2
          2 months ago

          Anyone who tells you “real Communism has never been tried before” is likely a Trotskyist, which is a strain of Marxism that was proven theoretically incorrect the second the Peasantry in Russia aligned with the Proletariat successfully. What came of that was post-hoc discussions about a “Worker State” not being Socialist if it didn’t fully eradicate all classes immediately, essentially taking a left-dogmatic error in applying Marxism.

          Socialism, in reality, is an economic Mode of Production where Public Ownership and planning is primary in the economy. There’s no such thing as a “pure” system, which was the major philosophical advancement in Dialectical Materialism when analyzing Modes of Production through history. Capitalism is a Mode of Production where commodity production and markets are primary, and while they are present in the PRC, they are not the primary driving force of the economy, and are subservient to the Public Sector and government planning.

          As for your take that the Red Scare didn’t matter, I’m curious what you think the USSR even looked like from a day to day pespective.

  • umbrella@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    97
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    2 months ago

    imagine making social media so bad your own citizens actively procure your biggest rival’s networks.