Look at the way Tesla collects and treats customer data, and the way Musk seems to unilaterally abuse his control over the companies he owns for personal reasons.
Now think about the capabilities of the Intel Management Engine that pretty much every Intel CPU requires.
Bad vibes, I say.
For those feeling out of the loop, see here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine
Tldr - it’s a little always on processor, running a Minix OS, with direct access to all board devices including the Ethernet Controller.
AMD has something similar in form of their Platform Security Processor.
Sounds terrible. I’m sure it’ll happen cuz we live in hell.
CLOWN WORLD
Multiple Cores.
Overclocked
Computers is a fucking hot song, the drums are on point, the buildup and energy screeching about vr porn, the singularity and black holes until it all halts for a sax solo. Don’t forget 3G.
You lot in the states need more of this and less of diddly tromp.
If Intel didn’t have yield issues for over a decade, wouldn’t they be much further ahead than AMD by now?
Kinda weird how their production problems conveniently coincide with what will keep them “neck n’ neck” with the competition for as long as possible.
Intel made some massive mistakes with their post 14nm nodes, they overextended and fell on their own sword.
Admittedly what Intel were aiming for with their “10nm” node had higher density than tsmc’s “7nm” (from memory), considering the timeframe that would have been another massive leap for Intel; and if they had pulled it off AMD would be struggling like the bulldozer days.
22nm to 14nm Intel were on fire, almost seemed untouchable for quite some time. X99 was (in my eyes) the biggest leap in the right direction and probably their best consumer platform ever released. Huge cache, moar cores, pcie lanes for days and a refresh on their latest node (6950x).
I don’t see how Qualcomm buying Intel ever flies when Nvidia was blocked from buying ARM.
Corruption
No responsible board should sell as much as a paper clip to this sociopathic weenis piss baby.
Now give me an example of a corporate board at Intel’s scale being responsible when given the choice between being responsible or buttloads of short-term profits.
this is the company that at one time chose to buy mcafee.
But why!?
McAfee was a solid product in the beginning, it turned to crap after it’s admittedly crazy founder sold it off.
Yeah, dude is straight bat shit, but he made a good product. Buying McAfee wasn’t the mistake, ruining it was
I’d bet money McAfee has destroy more registries then it has protected.
Who gave him access to regex.exe?
Ultimately, the board doesn’t control who can buy stock.
I thought the weenis was a dance?
I thought it was the skin of the elbow.
I can lick my own weenis.
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Is there a way to hide images on lemmy?
These are very annoying and obnoxious.
What? It worked out for Twitter shareholders though.
What bothers me about all these political posts is when people act surprised when profit seeking people act purely in their self interest.
I agree it’s bad, but it’s weird to be constantly mad about things so obvious like parasites acting parasitically.
Responsibility, shockingly, can refer to more than making money.
Responsible to who?
Of course they will sell if there’s a profit to be made. Companies exist to make profits, if they can make a profit from it, it’s actually their responsibility to the shareholders to do it.Maybe you mean responsible in some way that has to do with morals, but if you think morals apart from staying within the law, have any say in this whatsoever, you are being very naive. That’s not at all how the system works.
That said I don’t see any other way than corruption for Musk to be interested. Musk buys Intel, and Trump doubles the subsidies to Intel and give them extra sweet government contracts. And everybody profit, except the stupid taxpayers including those that voted Trump.
Only the law helps super capitalist narcissists to stay at least somewhat within moral norms.
And in USA the law doesn’t even count anymore. So there you go, everything is fucked up, until Americans figure it out. Which means it will be fucked up for a loooong time.
Mixed feelings about this as someone with a relatively (per my portfolio) huge investment in Intel. It would result, eventually, in the end of Intel. But so many dumb people with so much money keep throwing money at his crap companies so it might work out in the short term to get out with a profit.
On the social media front Elon literally knows nothing, but it’s impossible to deny that he hasn’t helped build 2 companies that know how to manufacturer complex hardware at scale. To deny that just shows ignorance.
So while Intel has so many problems, and there’s the whole politics disaster side of things, he might not actually cause the end of Intel from a hardware perspective.
I don’t know that he has helped build anything. He has helped hype 2 companies.
He did great PR when someone was managing him, but recently his PR is poison.
SpaceX is managed by someone competent, musk has - quite frankly - little to do with the company.
Tesla is riding the hype from before musk took off the mask. I give them 4 years, tops. If it’s not already on the way down.Intel needs to be run and managed by engineers. That’s what we want from core components. Not hype, not bubbles, not marketing speak, not fancy names and confusing part numbers. We want actual engineers who have thought through the implications of their decisions all the way to the end consumer. We want hardware that works and is predictable.
Tom Mueller the person who was at SpaceX at the start would wholly disagree with you and says so online, as have other people, but instead people just say they are saving face and rely on anonymous sources to say he does jack all.
So like I said, ignorance.
It’s blissful sure, but it’s ignorance.
Edit: there are plenty of reasons to hate and dunk on the dude, but people love to enhance it with stuff like he doesn’t and never did do anything to make their hate seem even more worthy. All it does though is make you look ignorant.
If he buys intel surely he is buying your investment in intel to do so?
Youre going to short it?
Reads more like the investment tanked and he’s hoping for a recovery.
Shorting sounds nice though, long term.
I think the point is the stock would actually go up if Musk buys it because people think he’s a great businessman, despite all the evidence to the country. So no need to short it, just sell at the peak and duck out before he manages to crash and burn. Again.
Alternatively it could go up and up, Tesla style, as confusing as that is…
I only have a very passing interest in the stock market and that’s only because I have my pension as relatively high risk stock (it’s not really that high of a risk, that’s just what they call it).
But in the world with Apple, Google and and the traditional big car manufacturers, why on Earth when anyone invest in Tesla?
I agree. I keep hearing how terrible their cars are and we all know how much of a loon he is…surely anyone with any business sense would stay well away from that company, or companies affiliated with Musk? But what do I know…
Are there people left who will lend him money after seeing what happened to twitter?
Yes. People still lend Adam Neumann money, despite his record of epic failure. When you have the skills that get other people to pay the bills, failure is not a problem.
Because that he’s the richest known man in the world, we’re going to see this asshole’s name crop up a lot as a potential buyer.
Why can’t he just go fucking buy Facebook or something?
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Of course Elon Musk wants his grubby hands on the Arizona chip factory.
AMD: “Go for it!”
I thought the cross licensing deal between AMD and Intel basically collapses if one gets bought out?
So intel wouldn’t be able to make 64 bit processors any more?
Right?! RIP Intel haha
That would be good news for AMD
I’m the short term it will be good for AMD, in the long term they will lose the need to invest in research and development, start cutting corners and up prices for sub par chips. Bad news for consumers.
Isn’t he busy enough buying the United States right now?
I thought that was bought and paid for already.
It’s more of an ongoing project.
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Yep. Citizens’ United guaranteed that by allowing corporations to funnel an unlimited amount of money into campaigns.
Just a heads up, if
spendingwasting egregious amounts of money didn’t influence the outcome of elections, why would people do it?
On one hand “noooo!” But on the other this would be great for ARM and RISC-v if Intel tanks.
Screw ARM honestly, they don’t need any help. RISC-V though as the only open source of any significance, absolutely!
What about POWER9? You can buy a complete workstation right now, with an open source CPU, Board, BIOS. It’ll cost you an arm, a leg, and probably some more internal organs, but it is currently more functional than RISC-V.
Never heard of it, wanna pitch its benefits?
I mean, you probably heard of PowerPC. IBM kept working on that, is still working on it. They’re at Power10 now, but that has some proprietary blobs, as opposed to POWER9.
I’d say that it’s mainly cool because it’s an architecture with enough performance for modern stuff, that is completely open source. No proprietary BIOS, no Management Engine running unknown code. Also, pretty stable, supposedly.
Only supported by Linux, some BSDs, and some proprietary IBM *nixes, if you wanna say you have a system that literally can’t run Windows.
If you want fun facts, the currently 9th most powerful supercomputer, Summit, runs on it, I guess.
The hardware is too expensive for pretty much anyone to actually wanna use it, but oh well, what do you do.
You can get yourself a workstation for about $10k here. https://www.raptorcs.com/content/TL2WK2/intro.html
c’mon RISC-V! Framework is developing a board for their laptop right now.
Technically it’s a third party developing a Framework board. Regardless, it’s cool that other companies even can design Framework boards, and it’s cool Framework are fully supportive of it!
I didn’t know that, very cool
Hooray for Risc-v, anyway.
I think I joke too often about ruling benevolently over the world’s robots someday after everyone lays off their Cybersecurity staff.
But if we continue this trend, this community may have the only clean secure laptops after everyone else sells out and fills their shit with backdoors.
Maybe we can rule together as a benevolent collective…
Man, wouldn’t that be something.
Everyone is focusing on Musk but uh, Global Foundries wants to be involved in buying Intel?
The same Global Foundries that’s utterly incapable of progressing their tech stack?
The one AMD created when they got rid of their foundries and was happy to do so?
That amuses the shit out of me.
AMD wasn’t quite “happy” to sell their fabs, it was necessitated because they were facing bankruptcy. People forget but the prevailing opinion was that AMD was going to bankrupt within a few years.
Their pre-Su CEO, Rory Read, often gets shit online for being there during a bad period, but he made some difficult and necessary decisions that saved AMD. Part of that was the GF selloff.
I highly doubt Global Foundries is even in the position to buy Intel, they’d most likely want to give them a cash infusion in exchange for tech or for selling fabs (which intel would probably accept, since their fabs are currently under-utilised… in other words they have too much capacity, and yet are still building more because Chips Act says they have to). That would be good for GF.
As if Intel doesn’t have enough problems. That dipshit buying them would probably destroy them.
I worked at intel for a while. It deserves to be destroyed. But I live in an area with a lot of well off intel employees. It could tank my house value among other major impacts to the community. Like I am sure he would kill the matching donation stuff which would be a significant reduction of the amount of money non profits get in this area. So I hope the destruction is slow enough for other chip companies in the area to absord some of the workers.
It deserves to be destroyed.
I know we all hate our jobs but there has to be a story behind this…
I work with some Intel folks… The place just seems terribly mismanaged and the tech world would probably benefit if the technical folks would work elsewhere.
Eh, that’s just most large tech companies.
Intel took their stapler.
No no, it would work out,
You got to pay a subscription so your CPU doesn’t burn any transistors every month.
/s
I was about to get extremely upset, and then I remembered I haven’t used intel since 2012.
I have a 13700K that’s growing increasingly unstable due to their fuckup on voltage control. Never again. My next rebuild will be AMD.
havent built a new PC since 2019 but when I did, I specifically picked AMD because of the Specter problem that existed at the time. havent looked back since.
oh, I agree.
Does that include Wi-Fi or cellular modems or any of the other shit they make, or just x86 CPUs?
This is still extremely bad for the industry, regardless of whether you personally use it.
Meh. Maybe it will accelerate us to open hardware.
