It was a got damn stunt, offc
Is this gonna turn out to be trumps version of the Iran hostage crisis sabotage
Um… I think Gaza is already that
How? The election is over.
But from what I recall, that’s exactly what happened with the Iran hostage crisis too: they were freed on the day of Reagan’s inauguration after he took over from Carter.
The hostage crisis is part of why Reagan won. This wasn’t a campaign issue.
You mean TikTok wasn’t a campaign issue? I agree. I think I understand your argument now.
fair point
Gaza ceasefire and reversed TikTok ban. He’s basically won over younger voters before he’s even started.
It’s as if plutocrats worldwide are teeing up fake wins to help Trump solidify his power because they see an opportunity to kill off liberalism once and for all.
What could Trump do? Anyone know? The law is the law. Lemme guess. He’s just gonna not enforce the law?
Well, it’s a federal law, so yeah, basically. I mean, it’s kind of up to the president if the DOJ actually prosecutes people for breaking federal law. Take Biden for example. He just pardoned a bunch of people who were in prison for federal drug charges. The laws they broke are still on the books, and what they did was still technically illegal, even if it’s stupid to begin with.
Somebody at the DOJ could just go rogue and try to enforce the laws, but they would just be fired if the president didn’t like it.
He just pardoned a bunch of people who were in prison for federal drug charges
These weren’t even the worst pardons…
He let out some cunt who robbed her town blind.
Imagine being corrupt and then being pardoned by the president. That’s a slap to the taxpayer
There’s no way GenZ can possibly be this stupid, right?
A lot voted trump, so yes?
Iceberg of stupidity. And it’s not just genZ. It’s Americans in general.
Lol
This story has lots more to run. Trump is giving them a 90 day reprieve but hes going to try and extract something from them.
I suspect he will still try and get them to sell to one of his cronies. And bytedance won’t do that.
The fix is in, and TikTok is now just another implement in Trump and Elon’s disinformation machine. Crazy times, our country is literally being run by the top social media platforms.
Yes, before this it was run by regular media platforms.
Social media is way more efficient though. Like, almost incomparable.
Goebbels would be proud.
Key word being “literally”
Did you do your part to vote against Trump?
GOOD! I’m looking Forward to Trump RESTORING this App that he said was CHYNESE SPYWARE being used to Hurt Americans!
I mean it is just so so dumb. Have people really got that short term memory that no one remembers who pushed for this in the first place?!
Yes.
I bet the new algorithm will be pushing push far right content to everyone just like Twitter and Meta, this was a stunt to silence the leftists.
How do I filter out every thread regarding a given string?
Spreading for awareness, I’ve been posting this in relevant threads for a week - This is all theater.
trump was always going to “save” tik tok after starting the initial push to ban it (for the wrong reasons) to pretend he did something for you. Worst part is that all of the no/low info voters and non voters will eat it up.
It’s the equivalent of a person pushing you into the middle of the street and at the very last second, that same person tells the drivers to all stop. “Wow, I owe you my life!”
And now, this adds two layers:
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You think trump and the Supreme Court are colluding? now they get to say, nah uh!!! Even though again, this is all convoluted.
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trump gets to look “stronger” than the “highest court in the land” to help delude the next generation of low info tiktok folks.
P.s. The Chinese “protest” apps that were downloaded are going to mine the FUCK out of these millions of phones in the brief window they have them. Also, when the kids inevitably move back to tiktok, majority of them will still leave these other apps installed on their phones, dormant and collecting indefinitely in the background.
You know many of us agreed to give our data to China rather than messenger or else wise?
What point are you trying to make, and in response to what?
Simple. We choose to give our data to another country instead of companies that sell our data without us knowing. Also in Little red book. You see it tells the users to be cautious where they share their facial data and that it’s not needed to use the app?
You’re not making a lot of sense… It also seems that you’re under the impression that tiktok doesn’t sell data and ad profiles like all other social media networks?
Also tell me what’s not already online somewhere??? Location, Phone Number, Favourite things all already shared because we agreed! Also honestly I doubt any negative would happen with any data unless someone was against the Chinese government, was extremely rude to the natives of the app or else wise. Which to me seems incredibly fair.
Oh boy…
Ohhh boy? Can we try and keep the conversation flowing and meaningful whether disagreeing or else wise. Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying China or any other countries are perfect but of what I’ve seen. They aren’t the enemies the west portrays them to be. Including in my case I am the pupil of Meng Tian’s History. Further innovative and meaningful change.
Can I ask why are you going after little red book compared to other companies. Like while yes they may mine phone numbers but many many other platforms do it. Though Little Red Book encourages people not to share facial recognition data and you don’t need to, to use their app. They aren’t perfect and no app is but I feel much more inclined to use their app when there’s even a slight warning about sharing certain data compared to others that don’t care.
No trust me I know TikTok did and how am I not making sense. It’s simple. We choose to go to a literal Chinese app due to our governments decision? How can I make that anymore clear? We chose to give our data to another country? You seem to be hard of reading or thinking there’s some meaning in my text that there’s not, what are you assuming?
Through your odd syntax at times and non-US spellings of common words, seems likely that you aren’t actually from the United States - the US being the place where this farce was perpetrated - yet you speak with an “us” and a “we”… It’s strange.
Anyway, these are a few odd bits of info that seem to inform you as an unreliable source in this discussion. Are you trying to sow discord from afar, you silly little scamp?
I use a Canadian keyboard because it’s easier 😆 but I live in the US just under the great lakes. EST time. Though believe that if you wish. I am influenced by many cultures around the world from Norse, Chinese and more!
Also what do you think? The PS, China was mentioned and I mentioned China?
I think it’s a valid point that the concern being raised about tik tok is just as valid with other apps, both from Facebook or Twitter etc and from overseas apps. People are happily giving up their data and don’t see a distinction in how it is being used for disinformation by different state actors. It’s all misinformation.
People are apathetic to the risk, but also don’t see the risk for foreign government snooping as significantly higher than internal snooping.
Many people also don’t consider the willingness and commitment to giving China data now. I mean if Facebook, Twitter and else wise. Is scanning our wifi to see what is connected to it and what we have access to. Why not go ahead and give our data to a country they’ll sell the data to.
People like you really don’t get it. You can’t wrap your head around people not caring about their data.
There are people DYING because they don’t have access to affordable healthcare. There are families forced to live in section 8 housing because they can’t afford to feed their family and have a place to live at the same time. Our children are DYING in school while the police sit outside and watch. WE DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT OUR DATA.
This whole debacle should infuriate every single American. 85% of congress voted to disenfranchise 150 MILLION Americans. These assholes can’t agree on anything but they can agree on this. It’s a travesty that our elected officials can spoon feed you some bullshit about China and you forget how they don’t care about you.
And people like you don’t get that the worsening of all those problems will only accelerate under Trump’s corrupt plutocracy.
I’m not saying everything you’re saying here is correct but, this is exactly how a lot of people I know feel. What the replies to your comments aren’t understanding is that emotions are often stronger than facts. The average American has no idea how things work but they do know how they feel about them not working. That’s the reason they all have no problem handing over all their data.
You don’t realize how your data not being secure contributes to all of the problems you list.
I imagine the issue is that you think “your data” means that list of your “5 favorite types of hats” you posted yesterday or that mp3 of dogs barking happy birthday on your phone - yes, that is data, but it’s not really what we’re talking about here. Your data collectively, in a profile that is bought and sold, is like your DNA - it is the blueprint to exactly who you are, where/why you are weak and when/how to manipulate you.
I appreciate your passion, but your blind rage here is misplaced and frankly, your position is severely ignorant of the reality you’re currently operating in, in several key areas. You also seem to have wholly constructed an adversarial relationship here where you try to frame me as in support of our Congress, I am not. I don’t agree with how this bill was assembled, lobbied or passed in Congress. I do understand some of the nuance though, so I consider that. As I’ve said, after trump introduced a tiktok ban as a pure racist distraction without any actual substance, republican think tanks took the ball and engineered this situation as a trap, so they could attack either outcome from democrats (because they are feckless, grifting cowards). Key tactic within that strategy was when Republicans held Ukraine aid hostage on the condition that they wouldn’t approve spend unless the tiktok bill was allowed as well. So Congress reluctantly passed it, and Biden signed it and then he made an official statement that he or his administration would not enforce it (essentially saying, we were forced into this bullshit). So at that point, you’re talking about innocent human lives under an active terrorist attack from Russia in the balance.
Again, there’s a lot here you don’t understand it seems. I welcome you to breathe a bit, slow down and have a discussion. Happy to chat if you need.
Sorry to be a pedant about little things, but while you’re fixing typos, it’s “aid” not “aide”. I just mention it because it really changes the sense of “holding aid hostage.”
Not at all. I can’t say if autocorrect did this or my own mistake, but either way should be corrected now. Thank you for the note.
Personally I would’ve gone with a Protection Racket metaphor.
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What a waste this was.
Ah you pussies. Come on, show them you’re serious. Go dark again. Show them you really mean it and do the rest of the territories too. Forever.
I dunno if app stores are gonna bring it back though.
The law stipulates like, ridiculously massive (seriously like $5k PER USER) fines for hosting it. I dunno if a legally-dubious pinky promise from Trump will be enough for them.
That’s only really a problem for iOS users though. For Android users, you can just load the APK onto the phone and go.
Iranian hostages anyone? Look how trump saved the day. He gives them their bread and circuses.
Note that the law does not prohibit TikTok from operating. It prohibits companies like Google and Apple from distributing it, and according to this article, they are in fact not distributing it.
Even as TikTok was flickering back on, it remained unavailable for download in Apple and Google’s app stores.
TikTok shut off voluntarily and that appears to have been an excellent PR move, but we won’t know for certain until Trump does or doesn’t do something about it in the next few days.
Sec. 2) This division prohibits distributing, maintaining, updating, or providing internet hosting services for a foreign adversary controlled application (e.g., TikTok).
The “providing internet hosting services” seems like it could be an issue there
The law actually bans “providing internet hosting services to enable the distribution, maintenance, or updating of such foreign adversary controlled application for users within the land or maritime borders of the United States.”
If Google and Apple aren’t distributing, maintaining, or updating TikTok then it follows that nobody is providing internet hosting services enabling distribution, maintenance, or updating of TikTok.
Wouldn’t the ISP be liable?
Only if they hosted someone who distributed the app or update. Which nobody is doing.
TikTok may trust Trump but Apple and Google are much better off acting like the law is in force and could be used against them.
TikTok also was and still is acting like the law is in force - the law does not require it to shut off. They aren’t taking any legal risk.
It was a publicity stunt. That’s manipulative as fuck. You can add them to the list of businesses in Trump’s pocket.
