I’m just happy to be here

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      any and all terfs from threads or otherwise will be banned. if threads is added as a federated instance, we will simply add them to our list of probation instances in the rules alongside lemmygrad and hexbear. in addition, the way we run our community does not count as enforcing a narrative. because that rule does not apply to us, we do not have to deal with it.

    • Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Welp, they did it. Just not really sure what happens now. I should hope some new members who are a bit more in touch with the community get appointed to the team.

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      Ditto, I don’t support the move.

      I want my trans-friendly community on my trans-friendly server, not .world

      We’ll continue there without the current mod team.

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          Debatable. The dragonfucker story is very nuanced to me.

          From my perspective, dragonfucker clearly came here to be a shit stir and cause chaos. However, it is important to still respect people’s requested gender pronouns. If you think someone’s gender pronouns request is too far-fetched, just don’t interact with / block that person.

          I think banning this individual was the correct move, but misgendering anyone is not okay. Notice I’m avoiding pronouns altogether here to dodge the issue completely.

          I’m not entirely up to date on what went down between the instance and the moderators of this community, but it’s clear communication broke down and this one person was able to create a chasm between the two.

          What I do not like is the lack of communication on the moderators’ end, and it’s very clear that most 196 users do not agree with this move as it has not been properly explained, and moving to a large instance goes against the idea of decentralization.

          • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nzBanned from community
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            Have you actually seen any of drag’s posts that people don’t like, or are you operating based on rumour?

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              Come on drag, you’re gonna pull a take like that and then wonder why you’re on their shit list? I know you’re off the wall, but come on dude.

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      Why should there have been one?

      Moss and the Modteam are the ones for whom instance swap changes the most, and as far as I know, they have been discussing this for a long time.

      All “we” as users have to do is press the subscribe button.

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        If you look in the other thread you’ll see there’s a bunch of community members (myself included) concerned that this decision signals a decline in the standards to which it is moderated. The moderator team has given assurances that this won’t happen, but that raises the question of why this change is even necessary.

        Additionally there’s the concern that this decision will further centralise control over lemmy in a small number of instances.

        Then there’s the fact that 196 is kinda redundant on .world given that multiple shitposting comms already exist there.

        Furthermore, instead of locking down the existing community when they moved over here, the mod team could have appointed new members who don’t have a problem with the manner in which the blahaj lemmy instance is moderated. There’s clearly users who want to stay there, and some who won’t move over here.

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          I belive that only a small percentile of people really care about this.

          If enough people are so angry then they will make their own community over at blahaj.zone and proof me wrong but if not, then I guess there probably wasn’t enough demand.

          Being able to just leave and set up and run a Community the way you like it is the backbone and the biggest strength of the Fediverse!

          Then there’s the fact that 196 is kinda redundant on .world given that multiple shitposting comms already exist there.

          The move to .world was not to cater to some demand, it was as far as I know, mostly because of disagreement with the instance Admin/ Owner.

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            If enough people are so angry then they will make their own community over at blahaj.zone and proof me wrong but if not, then I guess there probably wasn’t enough demand.

            They already have their community, it’s !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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              This is part of the deal you make when joining a community with active mods, admins, and rules. Not everything is up for debate. I know firsthand that this can be quite frustrating sometimes, but we can’t act like everything else has always been subject to election up to this point. It simply was not.

              And again:

              Being able to just leave and set up and run a community the way you like it is the backbone and the biggest strength of the Fediverse!

              Start a community and run it the way you like! Expand the Fediverse! Make a place truly your own! You can do that with an ease that was unheard of before. The only thing you can’t do is force people to act the way you want them to.

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                Start a community and run it the way you like! Expand the Fediverse! Make a place truly your own!

                Perfect, and then the mods will lock it down and move to an instance I dislike.

                There’s a reason !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com exists. One strength of the Fediverse is indeed that the community belong to the users.

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                  Perfect, and then the mods will lock it down and move to an instance I dislike.

                  When you create a community, you are the mod of the community you created, and you can choose to move or stay. So I don’t know which mods you are talking about.

                  One strength of the Fediverse is indeed that the community belongs to the users.

                  Yes, by being able to leave and create your own community. You can even run your own instance, giving you total control over everything on it.

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            I belive [sic] that only a small percentile of people really care about this.

            Maybe you’re right about that. But given how badly the post and most of the mods’ comments are getting ratio’d in that thread, I’m inclined to disagree.

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              Could be!

              The only thing we can do is wait and see what happens. Maybe this 196 goes down and everyone moves to another. Maybe not. It’s always a question of, “Did it bother you enough to stop using it?” For me, the answer is “no.” Maybe for some, the answer is “yes.” I can’t tell.

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        If you don’t ask the community first, then what you’re doing is not “moving the community”, it’s just abandoning the community and starting a new one

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    wait, why not blahaj? I dont get it, it was well moderated there :(

    There should have been more communication or a poll or something, lemmy world is not known for its clean moderation :(

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    Can someone tell me why we are moving and why I should care?

    I’m too busy spamming shitposts to pay much attention.

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    Have you considered not trying to forcibly migrate a community from one instance to another (without community consensus), and instead building a community with its own merits?

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      People really don’t like it when a single mod decides to make decisions for the whole community without the support of the community.

      That’s why i support taking 196 away from Ada’s control

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        Did Ada’s actions not have the support of the community or did they not have the support of the mod team? (different things)

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          Well considering she banned all dissenters it’s pretty hard to guage dissent.

          If the initial rule change announcement is taken as a sample then more than half of those comments were removed, so based on that it doesn’t seem like Ada has the support of the real community, ahe just kicked out half the community.

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    As a long time community member, I hope .world doesn’t defederate from .ml. This instance has always been “reddity”. This community has always been one of my favorites. I’d hate to lose it.

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    My first reaction was “ew” and after reading into the reasons I still don’t agree but I respect it. I’m a bit thrown off by there not having been any discussion of this before if it has been “ongoing for months”, though I’m mostly a lurker and maybe I have just missed it.

    It honestly looks and feels so wrong but fuck it we ball I guess.

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      I didn’t hold a poll, because unlike other changes we’ve made to this community this does not affect our policy nor ethos. while the community is now being hosted on a different instance, we are running it exactly the same as we did on blahaj.zone.