• hendrik@palaver.p3x.deEnglish
    50·
    6 days ago

    I think it’s mainly the content. We need some good content, creative people and interesting videos on the platform. Yeah and maybe discoverability. People also need to get those videos displayed/recommended to them. Other than that, a good app is always nice. That’s already been worked on. But regarding the technology, I think Peertube works quite nicely these days. And it has a good amount of features as well.

    • MoonlightFox@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      6 days ago

      Making some sort of monetization scheme in which creators are paid more per view than YouTube, would solve a lot.

      Then creators might as well spend the extra couple of minutes to also upload to PeerTube, because they make more money per view there.

    • jqubed@lemmy.worldEnglish
      211·
      6 days ago

      The question is how to get the creators there. A lot of people are on YouTube because of the ad revenue, but with no ads on PeerTube there’s no revenue to share. A lot of other for-profit companies have tried to lure these creators away with little success, so I’m not sure how a non-profit service is supposed to attract people who have turned content creation into a career.

      • StaticFalconar@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        6 days ago

        Peertube is perfect for those niche things that aren’t revenue friendly. Add in the creator needs to be big enough to be self sufficient from patreon, its the plateform that isnt limited by ad sense BS or what trendy shit is happening.

      • poVoq@slrpnk.netEnglish
        5·
        6 days ago

        For long-form video creators a Patreon like subscription service might work, but I very much agree with you that this is the main issue. Peertube works fine from the technical side of things.

      • Ulrich@feddit.orgEnglish
        2·
        6 days ago
        1. Most people who submit videos do it because they enjoy it, not to start a career (or at least it doesn’t begin that way).
        2. Most creators at this point have sponsor-spots in their videos. That’s still monetization they control.
        3. Donations are a thing. Both to Framasoft (Peertube developers) as well as direct to the creators themselves. This still makes up a large portion of creator income.
        4. Personal sales. Lots of creators have their own products these days. Some of them are novel and others are high quality.
        5. Affiliate links to product promotions.

        Peertube makes it really easy to promote whatever you want in the “support” button.

        So really the only thing they’re missing out on is adsense. Which, fuck Google. And is only a small (but not insignificant) portion of their income.

      • hendrik@palaver.p3x.deEnglish
        10·
        6 days ago

        Right. OP didn’t specify it has to be a technical shortcoming… or easy to solve. So I just said what I think is the biggest issue. Because I really think the platform itself, and the software are great. And still constantly improving.

        I think this is really difficult to impossible to overcome. Other for-profit platforms have failed at this. Even the big players like Youtube, TikTok etc needed a huge pile of money, investors and an unethical business model to succeed. And I’m pretty sure we don’t want that with PeerTube.

        I think what we currectly, realistically can do is have a few big content creators do it for fun. And host their stuff on PeerTube. But that needs some other motivation than making money.

        Ultimately, the majority of the worth or value of a platform like this isn’t in the program code. But in the content and userbase. And I think that’s where the focus needs to be when we want to grow or improve it for the potential users.

  • Sean Tilley@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7·
    6 days ago

    It would be nice if there was an easy and straightforward way for instances to create their own shared indexes. There’s a feature for this in PeerTube, which I guess is supposed to act like instance following + a shared search catalogue. It would be handy to know how to easily make sort of the federation equivalent of a webring.

    The devs are also working on a mobile app, which I think is something the platform is sorely missing.

  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.worldEnglish
    16·
    6 days ago

    Search.

    If I go to youtube, and I search for content, it’s either there, or it’s not.

    If I go to peertube, I need to then exit the site, search on AN UNRELATED 3RD PARTY SITE, and then I can get results from more than the local instance.

    If I go to an instance that’s nothing but stamp collecting, the trending videos are going to be about stamp collecting. That doesn’t mean all of peertube is talking about stamp collecting. I’m just on the wrong instance, and the site itself is fractured and borderline useless.

    Now you can include a feature to tell peertube that you DO want to see trending, local only, as a stamp collector, on a stamp collecting instance, that would be really useful! But also, if I don’t give a fuck about stamps, as mkst people don’t, the default should be peertube wide trending across ALL instances. I mean, if I don’t care about stamps I’m on the wrong instance to begin with, but that’s besides the point.

    I feel like peertube should be each instance is a different type of content. Want to watch guys go fishing? There’s an instance just for that. With multiple different channels, each from different people, each covering different fishing topics. But your whole life isn’t just one topic. So you go to a different instance, one for automobiles, and you follow the channels that post videos about your car. Then you go to a cooking instance, and find a channel that’s just a guy showing you how to bake pies and cakes while running from the police.

    Your searches, will 99% of the time not find the most relevant results if we seperate the content based on instance. So the search as is, is really limited and fragmented to have to go to another site, search, find the video, come back to peertube, log in, go to the video directly, and THEN subscribe to the content.

    See how jarring that is, compared to youtube? Search, click, play/subscribe. All in 10 seconds.

  • fxomt@lemm.eeEnglish
    4·
    6 days ago

    Better federation. The vidiverse search is just bad, i want to watch all types of content from my account.

    And more general instances; i’m on spectra.video now, but as i said the vidiverse search sucks and it’s not federated to enough instances :/

      • fxomt@lemm.eeEnglish
        3·
        6 days ago

        Yeah :/ in some instances it is, but it’s usually broken.

        I especially wish i could actually interact with those videos from my account, such as liking or commenting. There are three types of instances: no sign ups, outdated or no content on them.

  • HipsterTenZero@dormi.zoneEnglish
    3·
    6 days ago

    I mean, if it had invidious’ functionality tacked on, i might be swayed to use it. That being said, rip public invidious instances

    • manicdave@feddit.ukEnglish
      2·
      6 days ago

      Admins are able to add external search engines. Most use sepia search and it pretty much covers all the non-sketchy stuff.

  • Rakenclaw@fedia.io
    6·
    6 days ago

    Maybe Librepay integration of some sort could help. Maybe that platform should be a little more ambitious and offer server operators and it’s users in the fediverse better pricing.

  • mesamunefire@piefed.socialEnglish
    4·
    6 days ago

    Getting Lemmy(and other fedi services) to fully support linking videos would help. Piefed and and other platforms support it pretty well.

    for example: https://piefed.social/post/398574

    direct link vs just the url. Lemmy will not work with the direct link like this nor the comments appearing in both instances.

    • poVoq@slrpnk.netEnglish
      3·
      6 days ago

      It used to work fine in Lemmy, but somewhere along the line it seems to have broken.

      • mesamunefire@piefed.socialEnglish
        1·
        6 days ago

        Yeah it’s been a little less than a year since it stopped working. I saw the GH issues, looks like the Lemmy devs took the position the Peertube devs need to fix…something with activityhub. I hope they fix things. Lemmy development vs the actual instances seem a bit more fragmented than the rest of the fediverse.

        I tried to take a look with my local Lemmy instance but it looks like the issue resides in how different Lemmy uses activityhub than other software. I don’t claim to know why they made the change but they seem to be the odd one out.

  • e0qdk@reddthat.comEnglish
    5·
    6 days ago

    It’s surprising that there doesn’t seem to be an obvious way in the UI to just see a list of creators/channels on a local instance. So, that’s the first thing I’d change to improve discoverability.

    The way I currently find relevant content is by going to Sepia Search, putting in exact words that I think are likely to be in the title of at least one video on a channel that would likely also have a lot of other relevant content, and then going through that channel’s playlists. Those searches often lead me to single user instances with only one or two channels (e.g. a channel that has a backup of that user’s YouTube content and a channel with a backup of their Twitch or OwnCast or whatever streams). When it leads me to a generalist instance or one with a relevant subject/theme though, I’ve had little luck finding content from anyone else unless they’ve posted recently (compared to other users). Often the content that is most relevant to me is not what is newest but the archives from years ago. (New content is relevant though once I want to follow someone in particular, but it’s not what I want to see first.)

    Another issue I’ve encountered is with the behavior of downloaded videos. I greatly appreciate that PeerTube provides a URL for direct download, and I prefer to watch videos in my own player downloaded in advance (so I can watch offline; pause and resume trivially after putting my computer to sleep; etc). H264 MP4 works fine for this, but the download seems to be some sort of chunked variant of it (for HLS?) which requires the player to read in the entire file to figure out the length or seek accurately. Having to wait a minute or two to be able to seek each time I open a large video file off my HDD is an irritating papercut. I suspect there’s likely a way to fix it by including an index in the file (or in a sidecar file) but I don’t know how to do it – short of re-encoding the entire video again which I’d rather not do since it both takes a long time and can result in quality loss. This usually doesn’t affect newly added videos (where the download link includes the pattern /download/web-videos and a warning is shown that it’s still being transcoded) but does when that’s done (the URL includes /download/streaming-playlists/hls/videos instead); so, this is something that happens as a result of PeerTube’s reprocessing.

    Downloads from the instances that I’ve found to be most relevant to me are also pretty unreliable (connection is slow and drops a lot), so I use wget with automatic retries (and it sometimes still needs manual retries…) rather than downloading through my browser which tends to fail and then often annoyingly start over completely if I request a retry… It would be really nice if I could check that I’ve downloaded the file correctly and completely with a sha256 hash or something.

    • jagged_circle@feddit.nlEnglish
      2·
      6 days ago

      Search on all these federated sites is terrible. We need several user-selectable algorithms that display feeds from all instances