Alternative title: “What CNBC is reporting on vs What FOX News is reporting on”
Correction: “vs What FOX News is tweeting about”
You Americans get what you asked for
And what political paradise do you belong to?
Why so you can run it down to make yourself feel better about living in a shit hole?
Dear dems worry less about your influencer status more about doing your job
Something something enjoy your republican overlords for the rest of time.
Seriously what the fuck is the democratic party doing anymore. It seriously feels like the second Obama left they collectively forgot what the fuck they were doing.
The people running the show since Obama left are the ones that are still pissed he beat Hillary in 08.
Instead of reshaping the DNC, Obama ignored it and Hillary’s people have had a hold of it except the brief few months Donna Brazil got in. And since she went public with all the shit they’d been doing, we haven’t seen anything else for 8 years.
They know exactly what they’re doing won’t win elections.
They know exactly what will win elections instead.
But that’s not what fills their campaign coffers, so that’s not what we’ll get from them.
The goals of Dem voters and Dem leadership haven’t been aligned for decades.
I still remember when Donna Brazile destroyed her reputation and lost her job after getting caught leaking questions for a CNN event to the Hilary campaign. Isn’t she one of Hilary’s people?
Here’s the piece she wrote…
Inside Hillary Clinton’s Secret Takeover of the DNC.
When I was asked to run the Democratic Party after the Russians hacked our emails, I stumbled onto a shocking truth about the Clinton campaign.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774/
Thank you so much for sharing this, this was exactly the kind of very credible (and wonderfully succinct) detail I needed to finally get some closure on 2016. I knew Hillary fucked us, goosed the whole party to try to force her way in.
In my opinion the ongoing failure of the Democrat party is significantly caused by this exact saga. I think this was the point many passionate people (like myself) were forced to realize “oh. The Democrats aren’t working for us either, the whole goddamn thing is rigged against all of us”, and there’s never been the same enthusiasm since.
When people blame Democrats-the-party-leadership, this is what I think of. Still infuriates me to this day, things could have been different. Now all these years later here we are, the “deplorables” she derided - people Bernie would have sincerely sought common ground with! - are well on their way to fascism.
Edit: grammar
For me it was the fact that the first time the Democrats let a Progressive run in their primary (Bernie) they also ran like 7 or 8 other progressives in an obvious attempt to siphon votes from Bernie
Yeah I remember the outrage over that. Lasted for weeks. “Sometimes I get the questions in advance”.
Then it turns out FOX News did the exact same thing for Trump this cycle but that interesting fact was withheld to be a sell-a-book bombshell (long after the result) and nobody really gave a shit.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/08/media/trump-fox-news-town-hall-questions-maria-bartiromo/index.html
Politicians should have to be able to publicly account for every single dollar in their bank accounts. Something tells me if we somehow could magically make that happen tomorrow there wouldn’t be a politician left.
Maybe Bernie lol.
The magical way is having won an election and spending the next 4 years passing legislation and letting people know every day that you are working towards it, showing results every day of every month until the end of mandate
But yeah for that you need to win an election first
And be consistent
What’s the point of filling campaign coffers if it doesn’t help you win?
When one candidate’s campaign can take control of the party (via signed agreements!) more than a year before she’s nominated as the party’s candidate, while keeping that secret, because the party was in debt and the party chair Debbie Wasserman-Whateverfuckher let it happen -
That’s a lot more than just raising money. That’s deploying a strategy to exert total control, no matter what the constituents want and what the primary procedure requires, AND being dishonest about it the whole way.
Besides, aren’t we tired of the “having a lot of money means you can do what you want” approach to things?
Here’s where the tuna melt story came from
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/22/politics/democrats-reaction-trump-agenda/index.html
"Are there changes that we need to make? "
Man this is absolutely telling
These guys lost an election and are still dancing around the possibility that they might need to change tactics LMAO 🤣
They say at the end that the moment was viral but maybe viral for them is different than for the rest of us the blue collar workers
They’re just aiding Trump. Their silence os complicity. They’re on the same side.
And that is not the side of the people.
They collectively forgot what they were doing when Bill Clinton abused his position to get sucked off by an intern.
I still believe in my heart of hearts that Bill and Hillary are swingers or have an open marriage and that they only got married for political reasons. When Bill got caught getting his rocks off in oval office they figured infidelity would be easier to stomach for the American people than the truth which is they they have an open marriage lol.
I have absolutely zero actual proof for this belief but I have chosen to believe this is what happened.
You’re not alone, I’ve thought this for decades too. Their marriage strikes me either as one of those medieval dynastic alliances, or Hillary wanting to puppeteer Bill to achieve her own ends.
Our only hope is that Monica says something before she passes. Poor woman was lambasted for doing ostensibly nothing wrong. Naughty and in poor taste sure, but come on now. Who wouldn’t wanna get sucked off in the oval office. I will bet money right now that the first female president is gonna get eaten out on the resolute desk.
Shit someone probably already has been eaten out on that desk… Imagine if it could speak lol. The stories it would have haha.
It’s because they had nothing to do with Obama. Obama was the result of the last honest primary with no fuckery, and the DNC immediately regretted it. They wanted Hillary to get the nomination in '08, so they forced her through in '16.
Authoritarianism is oddly efficient in making decisions and having direction. Such are the perils of democracy… an opposition that embodies shared decision making and balance of power will often look slower, incompetent and out of touch…
Dems just don’t look like it, they act the part too!
We are so fucked.
The right found themselves someone who champions their values in as much the same way as the left finds a champion in the Roosevelts.
I think it’s pendulum swinging to the right in general as is nature of politics. Hopefully it won’t last long and someone doesn’t stick a knife to stop the pendulum swinging back. There is still plenty of hope considering that many Americans are still resisting. I don’t know who is who in both the Senate and the House, but I’m sure the Democrats will vote down the proposal to allow a third term to a president, and a Republican one at that.
What do you expect from a party that has no power? Honestly Republicans should be more pissed off, they have all 3 branches of government and they’re doing symbolic bullshit with 0 chance of success to appeal to Trump specifically, and it’ll work because he never watched School House Rock. Not that I’m complaining.
Remember when the Democrats had a super majority and did literally fuck all with it? No abortion law, no privacy laws, literally fucking nothing? I do. Cause I remember being real excited they might actually do something and now I’m jaded because they fucking didn’t.
Keep watching and you’ll be just as pissed at how much the Democrats insist on fucking kneecapping themselves at every available opportunity. I mean, Jesus. Christ. Kamala ran on building the fucking wall.
Remember when the Democrats had a super majority
1979-81 is before my time. In 2021-23 Democrats had a majority in the house and a weak-as-possible majority in the senate (a supermajority is 60 votes, enough to break a filibuster) with only 50 votes*, with Kamala as a tiebreaker.
In all practical terms though, that kind of majority is a Republican majority. In order to control the Senate at all (due to the fact that every state, even rural red states with less than a million people gets 2 votes), Democrats have to include people who are basically Republicans in their senate races, like Joe Manchin - a “Democrat” who refused to endorse Biden or Harris over Trump this last election. And that’s exactly why codifying Roe failed - Manchin said no.
I’m not here to defend Democrats though. I think they should’ve kicked out Manchin a long time ago and stop hiding how broken the system is. But they’re not the problem, they’re just the insufficient cure. Republicans are the problem, fight them. If Democrats are too centrist, then the left should be primarying Republicans and attempting to make a hostile takeover of the party.
*Technically even this was not a Democrat majority, as it included 2 independents - 1 was Bernie Sanders, the other was the more centrist Angus King
the constitution only matters if the people who enforce it actually decide to.
the american “experiment” is over. It has reached its logical conclusion
Tuna melts? Or fascism?
People really fucking blame Democrats for not being in charge after those same people don’t vote for them, goddamn clown country.
Dems gross incompetence is the exact reason they can’t get enough votes to win what should have been the easiest election of all of our lifetimes
What policy issue do you disagree with them on?
Sustaining genocide in Gaza is a big one. Kamala’s campaign was literally told by a sizeable number of voters that they wont vote for her unless she opposes it. It’s the primary reason Kamala lost the election. And that’s before mentioning that the Democratic convention didn’t even give the greater party the ability to choose a candidate. The only choices were Biden and Kamala, and neither offered any worthwhile promise to their voter base. They just hit the “were not Trump” angle expecting to automatically win because of it.
On top of that- Failing to enshrined any trans-rights or abortion protections into law is a big one. They’re also just as anti-worker as Republicans. Biden is the one who shutdown the rail strike, claiming the workers were “too necessary” to allow them to strike.
Democrats don’t actually care about the causes they supposedly champion. So why should voters pretend like they do?
And as a preemptive comment: obviously Trump and Republicans are fascists. But the majority of Dems in power have more in common with their coworkers than they do with their average voter.
Not sure anyone has ever presented solid evidence that Kamala would have won if not for the Gaza issue. Most agree it was a contributing factor, but not a determening one. Which is scary when you think about it - the real reasons she lost appear to be more nuanced and more deeply related to general cynicism, ignorance and apathy.
Congratulations, Trump is in office and Israel is gunning down Lebanon citizens and buying 1000 lbs bombs again for the first time in years, news outlets saying Israel is prepping to annex and settle even more lands in the Gaza strip.
You failed to back the peacekeepers and now so much more blood will be on your hands as a result.
The only option is all hands on deck, push the envelope even if we don’t agree with whats in it. We can have campaign finance reform and tax the rich if you would only do that one thing.
What peacekeeper? Biden was supplying the genocide too. It’s a principled stance. We won’t vote for genocide whether it’s red or blue running the show. And no, the blood isn’t on my hands since I didn’t approve, or purposely give my tax money to Israel. Biden, and now Trump are doing that.
On top of that the Biden administration had 4 years and confirmation by the Supreme Court he could essentially do whatever he wanted as president. And he still did nothing but had over the case to a DoJ that did fuck all about it.
Also you glossed over my other points of Biden’s failures.
Edit: You also realize Israel was literally bombing civilians in Lebanon when Biden was president right? Or did you alreadh forget ablut the pager bombs Israel planeted in Lebanon? And Biden still gave them a shit ton of weapons, and only effectively blocked one type of weapons shipment as a political maneuver.
I literally just told you: Israel is buying more and bigger weapons than ever. Your ignorance of that simple fact, that the genocidal Israeli government backed Trump for presidency specifically so they could be even more violent, just shows you don’t care about all of the women and children who die as a result.
And I’m telling you the genocide is largely unchanged. The only difference is the names on the weapons heading into Israel and the rhetoric. But anyone paying attention knows that the rhetoric changes nothing. The only difference is that the US is mask off about supporting genocide now.
Remember that Democrat super majority? Fucking nothing.
I remember over a decade ago when 58 Dems voted for single payer, every Republican and a couple of Independents fucked it up for us, but at least we still got the medicaid expansion that gave coverage to millions of American citizens.
Before that, the 111th congress had a dem supermajority for only 72 days and it is the most productive congress on record since the 89th congress as far as bills passed.
Most the people I know that did vote for them blame them for not being in charge. Yes, it is a clown country.
They’re not exactly helping elect their chosen candidates by flaming them online.
Can someone explain me what was the tuna melt moment? All I get is literal tuna sandwiches in the Google search
Yeah, if that’s the most viral they went in the last 5 years, they’re in trouble. I don’t remember anything like that happening either.
it was that time Biden walked into a Subway and said “you’re telling me a tuna melted this sandwhich?” and everyone laughed
Dear lord. I guess that explains everything about how the Democrats failed to win. They live in a different world.
Isn’t that pretty much the context for the movie Civil War?
ERROR: USA.exe has crashed
Simulation is now shutting down
Simulation is now shutting down
If only it was going to be that quick and painless.
Just waiting on the Blue Screen.
Another party winning an election democratically is hardly the end of the world
Well imagine you have a worldwide climate crisis.
Then the most powerful country in the world pulls a Weimar 1933
I don’t know if after 4 years (of there even is an election anymore), if theres still time to save this fucking mess.
Can’t someone make a new party that actually represents working class people and just get rid of Democrats? By many other countries politics, Democrats look more right than left
Then they wouldn’t have the corporation’s interests represented
We should do this with the sole intention of throwing a wrench into the process and making the Dems pay attention. With the distinct understanding that we should not allow it to divide the progressive vote under any circumstances.
This is done all the time. Think the Tea Party or the Green Party etc. They’re just extensions of existing parties meant to bring attention to certain topics.
The Right never hesitates to use this kind of tactic and we need to grow a spine and do it as well.
That’s the Green party, but you get yelled at when you even suggest voting for them, even in a non-swing state.
Democrats have political and financial capital, which tend to be powerful assets in running a successful campaign. Any new party needs to:
- Inform the general population that they exist
- Inform the general population what their platform is
- Persuade the general population that their platform is desirable
- Convince the general population that they’re capable of implementing their platform
These are not trivial tasks, made more difficult without a track record or money.
Without a PAC funded by the ultra rich no unapproved canidate will ever make it to the ballot.
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
You could also just vote in any mix of dems and indies to get 60 votes needed to pass the H.R. 1 For The People Act and also undo the damage caused by the Citizens United decision.
I spend WAY too much time online and see all the stupid viral videos because of it, and I pay attention to politics a LOT more than the average American does getting their hour of
newspropaganda from billionaire-owned media each night from the TV and facebook posts from their bubble of “friends”.What fucking viral Tuna Melt moment?
Only 80 year old geriatric with dementia would consider that viral, wait.
What fucking viral Tuna Melt moment?
I’m pretty sure she’s being ironic. The giveaway is “very memorable” – if it really were memorable you wouldn’t say it that way.
It’s like when a videogame company shows. A graph of total accounts for a game instead of the actual revenue, because the revenue numbers are bad, and the only positive is the number of accounts
