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Summary
Federal employees at multiple agencies were ordered to remove pronouns from email signatures by Friday, following executive orders signed by Donald Trump to eliminate diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs.
Agencies including the CDC, Department of Transportation, and Department of Energy issued directives citing the new policy.
Some employees expressed frustration, with one CDC worker calling it unprecedented.
The Office of Personnel Management also instructed agencies to disable pronoun prompts in email systems, marking another step in Trump’s broader rollback of DEI initiatives.
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This should be what people do.
I’m sure they’re doing something else awful behind the scenes and this is just a distraction for that.
Maybe they’ll finally pick something important to work on tomorrow. Probably not, but maybe. We still have other issues right? I heard a couple of planes fell out of the sky and eggs are $10 and the ice caps are gonna melt.
You mean to tell me the US government doesn’t have a system that controls employee signatures? Are they running Windows NT still???
-Luci (She/Her)
Federal employee here. We have to make our own email signatures. I have not been told to remove pronouns by an official channel, but I have already removed pronouns and switched to having Ms. infront of my name, cause it has the same effect and the administration is too stupid to know that.
You heard it here first, folks. Pronouns are out, prenouns are in.
Edit: although this is not inclusive for our non-binary friends. Open to suggestions on that one.
Mx maybe? Follows the same format but allows for it to be non gendering. Idk I have a feeling it might be incorrect or there maybe a issue with it having a x because of chromosomes.
"Mx? Must be Mexican. Or DNS specialist. "
although this is not inclusive for our non-binary friends. Open to suggestions on that one.
I’m by no means an expert here, but I think that’s what “Mx” is used for.
Antinouns
That’s way too dangerous without a containment field.
flashpanda has used two pronouns, “I” and “We”. Please remove these pronouns by the end of the day.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/grammar/british-grammar/pronouns-personal-i-me-you-him-it-they-etc
From now on flashpanda must to refer to flashpanda in third person like Solomon Grundy.
peoplebeproblems like this. peoplebeproblems recommend having everyone start referring to eachother in the full third person. Thank troybot, peoplebeproblems hope this catches on.
CileTheSane wants to know where Luigi is when CileTheSane needs him.
CileTheSane meant to say:
needs
himLuigi
How does that convey the same effect?
What if you are non binary?
Many nonbinary people use Mx. but that’s a personal decision.
One of my favorite sci fi authors simplified it to just “M.”
Mr., Mrs., Miss, Ms. can just be boiled down to “M.”.
If I actually cared, that’s probably what I’d pick.
To me, that just means “monsieur.”
I could see it working for that too!
Oh, no. No, no no. It’s much worse than that.
Hell if they were still on NT we’d be safer.
Pronouns should be used at the discretion of the individual. They should be able to choose who receives them, how it’s relayed, and what the pronouns will be. They should be able to change them whenever they want.
Putting this into a database such as active directory isn’t simple when it has requirements that I’ve stated.
It’s sometimes easier to just let the individual maintain their own signature.
We use a third party tool and a custom schema. Users can use a simple agent to update pronouns or make other adjustments like display their direct line. Works great, AD is still the source of truth.
Lol, we on Citrix cant even set a signature anymore cuz outlook is screwed up
Actually it’s not Outlooks fault for once.
Is there a fix?.. 😐
Not sure about your issue, but for the borked Office login we are experiencing, there isn’t.
I wouldn’t be surprised if there are still a few Novell Netware boxes out there.
I’ll have you know that I am an official paper CNE.
OH GOD
The time has come for all federal employees to cease using pronouns entirely in communications. Here is a list of English pronouns to stop using.
Also pretty much any noun can be used as a form of neo pronoun, so to be safe all Federal employees should only use verbs.
First they came for the verbs, and I said nothing because verbing weirds language.
Next they arrival for the nouns, and I speech nothing because I no verbs.
All who?
Wait, fuck
Comply but include unicode: ♀ ♂ ⚧
Oh, thank god they’re focusing on the important things… /s
Any day now and those egg prices will come crashing down.
Eggs are basically free as soon as they get rid of these egg stealing tranny’s. At least i assume that’s the problem
Trump is working to lower egg prices by reducing demand for them, which is why he’s now trying to kill or deport a significant fraction of the American population.
This is so they can build in an excuse to fire everyone in IT.
Anything to distract from the plane crash they caused and plans to indefinitely hold citizens and people who missed a court date in an expanded Cuban military black site the public never wanted built on the first place
Is this so he can attack the dwarves?
Trump likely doesn’t know what an email signature is, let alone would have thought of this. This and things like it are the work of the real powers within trump’s orbit. They get this stuff done while everyone is distracted with the diarreah leaking from trump’s mouth.
He doesn’t know how government works, he doesn’t know what tariffs do, he’s just the loudmouth sock puppet doing what some other evil assholes are telling him to do
Same as it ever was.
I’d say this is the distraction for the real damage.
Probably Elon’s henchmen taking over OPM, or something else that hasn’t bubbled up yet.
Fuck pronouns, I just use names.
And when you don’t know their name?
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Gronk smash!
Actually you bring up an interesting point. No one generally has an issue with ‘I’. I suppose that’s because no one has gone batshit enough to try and convince people they don’t exist. What’s the opposite of I?
You. Also a pronoun.
No. I am that I am. The opposite of I is non existence. You are not the opposite of me.
You may not be my opposite, but the word ‘you’ is the opposite of the word ‘I’.
Why? By what reasoning?
Let’s say it’s the two of us. Between the two of us, we can use ‘I’ and ‘you’ and they might be opposites in that the opposite of ‘I’ is ‘not me’. But if we added a third person, then we got ‘I’ ‘you’ ‘him’ and now both ‘you’ and ‘him’ are both ‘not me’. So what logic makes ‘you’ the opposite of ‘I’?
Most pronouns have counterparts that I was using as my reasoning for identifying opposites. He/she, us/them, you/I.
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The party of Freezed Peach! Can’t you just smell the freedom?
Also, I’m sure it’s THIS that will give us cheap groceries.
Please use my full, christian, and satanic name when referring to me.
So much for ending emails with a simple “thank you” at the end. Damn offensive pronouns.
That’ll bring down the cost of living fs
