I’m not dogging you here, but you’re basically succumbing to “forceful language needs a forceful reaction”. Simply not true.
Sorry, but I completely disagree. We are in this situation in the first place because these countries did not give a forceful response. I’m not saying they need to threaten nukes every time Trump sends out a mean tweet, but for the love of fuck I don’t think sticking to a forceful “Greenland is not for sale” is too much to ask. Trump is pulling more and more shit with more and more countries (Canada, Mexico, Panama, Denmark) because they fucking allow him to.
“Greenland is not for sale under any circumstances, and we will not dignify such a ridiculous idea with any further response.” That’s it. No need to declare WWIII or something. That’s all they needed to stick to and this whole thing would still be considered the demented ramblings of an idiot. But instead of a forceful response, they went the “well, ackshully” route and now we have not only this demented idiot but a growing number of supporters believing that the US suddenly “deserves” Greenland.
At a geopolitical level? Forceful language absolutely needs a forceful response. 100% of the time. This situation is what happens when you don’t give one.
No, these countries are actually intelligent, and are doing more than just shouting back at the absolutely mindless void that is the Trump administration. Stalling for time, figuring out an actual response, and delivering alternatives is a thoughtful process. Yelling back at Trump is just inviting more bullshit which they don’t want to deal with.
Fact of the matter is that the US Military will refuse to start WW3 and alienate the few allies it has left. It’s sandwiched between Canada and Mexico, it’s closest allies which Trump wants to alienate hold the Atlantic cross, and nobody in the Pacific gap will work productively with him to allow the grab of Greenland. If he even starts a military incursion, the US is fucked. He doesn’t know this, but they do.
As Trudeau said “Good luck figuring out who provides US with their most needed materials”.
Stalling for time, figuring out an actual response, and delivering alternatives is a thoughtful process.
Wait a minute. Stalling for time, figuring out an actual response, and delivering alternatives?
Trump is literally threatening to take Greenland by force, and Denmark responds by allowing them to expand the military presence the US already has there? How ridiculously stupid is that? That would be like Zelinsky responding to Russia’s threat of invasion by allowing Putin to park the tanks in Kyiv.
And they are literally enacting pro-Trump policies. I don’t care what the subject matter is, who the fuck allows a foreign country to literally demand and dictate the foreign policy of another?
Canada and Mexico dangling shiny objects to appease trump is a tactic I completely disagree with and I think will backfire in the not-too-distant future, but I can at least see the merit there even if I disagree with it. But what Greenland is doing isn’t some kind of stalling tactic. It’s literally bending the knee. How is that kind of strategy in any way beneficial to Denmark?
You’re confusing all kinds of different things here. The original angle was Greenland. They are stalling to find out who will respond if the US tries an incursion. It’s that simple. It shuts Trump up, and they know he won’t do anything without starting a war.
The US already has a large base in Greenland and if the US actually sent in marines to conquer Greenland there’s fuck all Greenland could do about it with such short notice. This measure may just make the dumb orange man happy and it gives Denmark time to assemble an actual multilateral response (France is already on board but that’s not enough).
I don’t know why you’d consider getting another country to spend a lot of money in your country to be bending the knee. These US soldiers will have to follow the local laws (or cause a massive disruption) just like those already there and the extended military presence won’t significantly impact the ability for Greenland to resist.
Trump lost the tariff exchange. Canada said “We’ll appoint a border czar sure”, Mexico got a lot of border funding they wanted anyways… and Greenland is in a pretty impossible situation but managed to stall any disaster.
Sorry, but I completely disagree. We are in this situation in the first place because these countries did not give a forceful response. I’m not saying they need to threaten nukes every time Trump sends out a mean tweet, but for the love of fuck I don’t think sticking to a forceful “Greenland is not for sale” is too much to ask. Trump is pulling more and more shit with more and more countries (Canada, Mexico, Panama, Denmark) because they fucking allow him to.
“Greenland is not for sale under any circumstances, and we will not dignify such a ridiculous idea with any further response.” That’s it. No need to declare WWIII or something. That’s all they needed to stick to and this whole thing would still be considered the demented ramblings of an idiot. But instead of a forceful response, they went the “well, ackshully” route and now we have not only this demented idiot but a growing number of supporters believing that the US suddenly “deserves” Greenland.
At a geopolitical level? Forceful language absolutely needs a forceful response. 100% of the time. This situation is what happens when you don’t give one.
No, these countries are actually intelligent, and are doing more than just shouting back at the absolutely mindless void that is the Trump administration. Stalling for time, figuring out an actual response, and delivering alternatives is a thoughtful process. Yelling back at Trump is just inviting more bullshit which they don’t want to deal with.
Fact of the matter is that the US Military will refuse to start WW3 and alienate the few allies it has left. It’s sandwiched between Canada and Mexico, it’s closest allies which Trump wants to alienate hold the Atlantic cross, and nobody in the Pacific gap will work productively with him to allow the grab of Greenland. If he even starts a military incursion, the US is fucked. He doesn’t know this, but they do.
As Trudeau said “Good luck figuring out who provides US with their most needed materials”.
Chill the fuck out.
Wait a minute. Stalling for time, figuring out an actual response, and delivering alternatives?
Trump is literally threatening to take Greenland by force, and Denmark responds by allowing them to expand the military presence the US already has there? How ridiculously stupid is that? That would be like Zelinsky responding to Russia’s threat of invasion by allowing Putin to park the tanks in Kyiv.
And they are literally enacting pro-Trump policies. I don’t care what the subject matter is, who the fuck allows a foreign country to literally demand and dictate the foreign policy of another?
Canada and Mexico dangling shiny objects to appease trump is a tactic I completely disagree with and I think will backfire in the not-too-distant future, but I can at least see the merit there even if I disagree with it. But what Greenland is doing isn’t some kind of stalling tactic. It’s literally bending the knee. How is that kind of strategy in any way beneficial to Denmark?
You’re confusing all kinds of different things here. The original angle was Greenland. They are stalling to find out who will respond if the US tries an incursion. It’s that simple. It shuts Trump up, and they know he won’t do anything without starting a war.
The US already has a large base in Greenland and if the US actually sent in marines to conquer Greenland there’s fuck all Greenland could do about it with such short notice. This measure may just make the dumb orange man happy and it gives Denmark time to assemble an actual multilateral response (France is already on board but that’s not enough).
I don’t know why you’d consider getting another country to spend a lot of money in your country to be bending the knee. These US soldiers will have to follow the local laws (or cause a massive disruption) just like those already there and the extended military presence won’t significantly impact the ability for Greenland to resist.
Trump lost the tariff exchange. Canada said “We’ll appoint a border czar sure”, Mexico got a lot of border funding they wanted anyways… and Greenland is in a pretty impossible situation but managed to stall any disaster.