• Korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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    Can confirm, I have enough that I don’t really have to worry anymore. The only concern is over if I was to lose my job. So paying off debts faster would be nice as it then reduces how much I need to pay month to month. Vast majority of my expenses is paying back debts.

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    If people really didn’t want to be rich, no one would play the lottery.

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      People play the lottery as a fantasy of escaping their financial circumstances. People have debt and demanding jobs.

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    Yes, thank you. This is what I have been saying for a long time. But I came across so many temporarily embarassed millionaires and workbros who rub it in how they are going to be more successful than I am. I just cringe because I just want a simple life and don’t have to worry much about money. Some people can’t understand what humble means.

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    Honestly, I don’t even want to have all that money at once. If just the job market is good enough that I will always be employed and earn a livable wage, that’s what makes it already. It’s a lot about trust in the economy, and knowing that there is a social system that prevents me from starving in case my education becomes worthless at some point.

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      I feel kinda bad reading this reply because you’re trying so hard to be a good worker in a system that has literally indoctrinated you into being a good worker when the point of the meme is to not worry.

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        I think it is more about the nature of work in today’s world. I think if we each felt that our day to day labor contributed to a better world where we were taking care of eachother, we would be proud of our labor and have a desire to continue bringing about good things. But, a lot of us don’t see how our work helps the world, or if we do, we don’t share in the reward for doing so.

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    I don’t need enough money to not worry. Just need a job that’s secure. The job I have is nice but there’s always something that could happen

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      Pretty much my situation. My employer pays everyone a living wage, but the job security isn’t exactly perfect

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      It’s still handy to have enough money that losing your job wouldn’t be an emergency.

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        Ye but that’s what I’m saying. It’d be nice to just have a job that you never have to worry about losing

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    Due to the wonders of medical bankruptcy, that number you need to not worry gets higher every year

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      We are not all American. Some of us can die in the corridor of an NHS hospital of an easily treatable illness instead. At no personal expense.

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    aaaaaand almost the entire capitalist system is built around the effort to reduce any individuals worth so that they are in a constant state of worry and need to continue to produce through their physical labor for the benefit of others. feudalism was worse. communism put capitalisms sins to shame with the absolute corruption, human rights abuse, and genocide (stalin slaughtered 20 million all on his own under the mantle of the ussr)

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    Not worrying about money anymore is called being rich. If you live a comfortable life but it still depends on you having a job then you still worry about money and thus aren’t rich.

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      not worry about money [to meet basic needs].

      Everyone worries about money. But for an upper middle class person they’ll be worrying if they can afford to send their daughter to a private university or to afford an expensive trip — that’s not worrying about basic needs.

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        What counts as worrying about money? It certainly isn’t something that gives me any problems or stress and I am far from rich by any measurement of wealth.

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    A handful of people want to be Masters Of The Universe and neurotically own every single penny and paper piece of money that ever existed and will exist in the future even if it means they will never fully enjoy much of that wealth during their lifetime.

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      I think it’s far worse than that, sadly. Some people chase after something - daddy / peer approval? - that they will never have, and certainly cannot buy with money, yet they’ve inappropriately decided to triple down on attaining more money as their means to solve their other personal issues. And then control all of society trying to get people to look down on anyone who does otherwise.

      Really they don’t even desire the money, like a zombie munching, yet unlike a living being’s hunger response from which it was originally born, it will never become sated, it’s just an endless intake with no purpose (anymore).

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      This society deifies the crazy cat lady syndrome as long as it’s with money rather than cats and, worse, the actual crazy cat ladies are driven by good intentions whilst those obcessed with hoarding money are driven by almost the opposite kind of feeling.

      These people are literally sick people and the shitty system we have actually celebrates them and has laws designed to support the symptoms of their disease.

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    Financial freedom refers to the ability of an individual to live a life free from financial worries, constraints, or limitations. It is a state of being where an individual has enough money to cover all their needs and wants without being enslaved by debt or having to work just for survival.

    I achieved this about 8 years again and I have actually happy times now. A walk feels great because I don’t stress when getting back to life. Everyone should have this and taxes should match this purpose for EVERYONE. But people will support only billionaires having this life.

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    There are some people who want to be wealthy to the tune of flaunting it, making other people figuratively or literally bow down to them. Those people should not be allowed to have power.

    If I was somehow a billionaire, I like to think I’d be spending my money on socially useful stuff. More libraries. More infrastructure. Housing. Can an ultra rich person essentially run public housing and transit, at least on a city-wide scale? Probably. but the kind of person who gets to be ultra rich is probably an asshole.

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      And there’s the problem. The things good-people would do with thier money to better society don’t have a good return. You don’t grow or even maintain your wealth so it runs out.

      These diamond spoon assholes that hoard thier wealth like dragons are a product of their environment. Gotta be an asshole to make the line go up and never down.

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      Our society (and by that I mean every society, no matter where you’re living) highly rewards the dark triad of personality disorders. And it literally punishes you (financially mostly) for being kind, humble, empathetic or just decent. So, to be a billionaire, you will simply have to be a mean piece of human garbage. By definition.

      We, as a species, are fucked. There is no way out of capitalism anymore and it only will get way worse. One reason I became anti-natalist long ago. Now boo me.