Curious to see the comments about it on Reddit
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I wonder how long this will stay up.
Curious as well
You made a great comment showing some easy ways to join Lemmy, and that’s what I appreciates about you!
I appreciates many things about Ms. Katie
Thanks!
It’ll be a great comment for a few hours until Reddit deletes it all and bans OP.
Still up, 600 points, 130 comments
sounds like they are coping
so glad i left a long time ago
Well, that’s the death of the free* forum. Went from BBS to newsgroups to phpBB to Reddit, each soft-killing its predecessor. But like WalMart killing Main Street, Reddit is going to kill the free forum.
Thank goodness for Lemmy and other free* social network software.
*free with the asterisk because we know it’s not free, we are enjoying the service that others volunteer to pay for.
Lemmy will need ads to support individual servers, eventually, when they’re not attached to another org (like a server CNN would run for just outgoing news dissemination). The rest of them, with bills and needing to eat, may need to go to ads.
I support proper ads that do not get priority placement and aren’t in-your-face.
I support prioritization of profile migration so we can vote with our feet if a particular server’s ad volume and content offends our sensibilities.
But I’m just saying I fully expect some ads are gonna happen, and I hope we can prevent full enshittification when that happens.
No, it will never have ads. If the devs put ads in, it will get forked. If server admins put in ads, they will be defederated. That’s nonnegotiable if you want a free (as in libre) fediverse.
Mastodon is way bigger than Lemmy and it doesn’t need ads. Donations and subscriptions (for severs that choose that path) are enough.
I don’t want it to have ads either but bandwidth is not free and someone somewhere is paying for it.
Is the donations don’t cover the bills there are few options.
I really enjoyed the Reddit gold model. I paid them $30/year for many years because I got so much out of the site that I felt they deserved it. Their monetization was pretty innocuous.
Then the enshittification happened.
And there’s a scaling problem, right? Like, the bigger the federation is, the more traffic each instance gets.
Maybe large institutions (universities, some governments, some companies, and so on) can each host their own instance. It would be a drop in their existing hosting costs.
You’re getting very close to describing how Usenet works.
Heh, is that a bad thing? I think not.
It’s not free, but it’s pretty cheap. When you don’t have to have massive marketing departments, huge management bonuses, expensive office space, crappy proprietary software, and massively scaled highly available platforms it costs a lot less to run a social media platform. Donations can often cover it all.
If one server gets too big, they can just cap registrations and people move to a different server.
At some point they are going to need lawyers, and more expensive anti-spam.
Good point. Way less staff to keep this service running as long as growth is not a priority like it is with most companies.
We run one of then largest lemmy server. We’re fully donation-funded. Lemmy.world is also the largest, also donation funded.
Is the donations don’t cover the bills there are few options.
They usually do. When we opened for donations, we pretty much hit our goals within days and our donations currently exceed our expenses without having to do donation drives. @[email protected] had a thread where Lemmy Admins discussed their costs and a lot are already fully funded.
Reddit executives also discussed how they might introduce more ads into the social media platform.
Oh how exciting!
service that owes its popularity largely to its low barrier to entry signals higher barriers to entry
cool! please do.
The whole reason reddit became as popular as it is now is because of bots in the beginning. The founders admitted as much.
Over moderation is also an issue. See the digg to reddit move in 2010 or 2011. Corporatize, moderate, lose engagement
In the great reddit to lemmy migration of 2023, a lot of users complained about the lack of content and engagement on lemmy. A number of lemmy moderators who came from reddit basically said the same thing and that they were working on deploying bots over here.
It looks like they did make some progress as there is a lot more content than there was 2 years ago. However, SOOOOO many niche subs just do not exist over here yet. Including most of my favs.
I am not that interested in linux or computers anymore.
i was looking at subs on here that were some of the ones i frequent on reddit, yea its a deadzones in some of the niches, no content for a year, i think alot of them went back to reddit. the ones that stay are usually the ones that get banned from reddit. the ones that are currently evading bans are on another forum(not associated with lemmy or reddit, im in one of those sites)
However, SOOOOO many niche subs just do not exist over here yet. Including most of my favs.
That is actually the only reason I come back to reddit from time to time.
and bot is the reason its still active, i think i read a reddit post about how most of the bots on the site are from places like RUSSIA, sowing dissent with thier troll farms. it make sense since reddit isnt doing much to removing much of those bots, instead targeting people like us and OF FANs. as soon as they did thier usual purges of bots, which include some from RU, reddit because eerily quiet and non-engaged(nobodies raging about what the other party did in alrge numbers), and the well known conservative subs, are silent. until the troll farms reorient thier trolls to come back. its easier for them to evade bans, because of thier resources. on some posts that were discussing it, reddit doesnt do enough against them.
Reddit is just borderline unusable because of the API thing… The app is unusable, and Red Reader is just too bland to use.
The official Reddit app and new Reddit layout drive me crazy… The amount of suggested content and the confusing algorithm for best sort really turned it into facebook. I find myself much happier here on Lemmy. I understand the algorithm. I’m even pleased to see that posts can last more than a day at the top of the “active” page. I think it means that Lemmy encourages discussion and going back to a topic even if it is a few days old. Probably better for our collective attention span.
Red reader is perfect. I wish they would add Lemmy support.
Not to mention bloated and loads like crap on older mobile devices.
i absolutely despise the Reddit app even on my cutting edge Android hardware. it sucks, it’s laggy and poorly designed - I can’t imagine the experience on a mid or lower-end phone
The bonfire is about to be lit.
nah, people will pay the fee.
So people will start using reddit alot less than they do anyway.
Well I think we’re gonna see another influx
Same, just got fed up about all this bullshit and degoogled every device in my life, as time passes we get more and more exploited by these giant companies.
Yep, hi, here am I. Usually I think news like these are fearmongering for clickbait, like those old “Facebook is going to be paiiidd!” (As if “being free” wasn’t at the very core of its appeal and selling point) but reading the room this day and age I don’t think I’d be that surprise if a change like that did happen to Reddit. The only good think about this shitstorm of an age is that it made me find the fediverse and I will never forgive myself for not caring enough to find it earlier.
a few days ago i saw how r/redditalternatives has only “lemmy bad!” posts and i know for a fact folks here have been spreading the word about lemmy in a positive way so don’t blame yourself, reddit has been actively censoring any good thing said about lemmy or the fediverse in general
i looked marginally deeper into this and it’s apparently all the way to shadow bans :) link
seems like its posted around the same time reddit started banning people in large numbers.
Oh, so that’s why I saw some post about reddit alternatives and the person replying had to mask lemmy. Oh wow.
Yea, I’m one.
one of us one of us
Can confirm. That’s why im here. Figured I’d just jump earlier with the whole avoiding US companies vibe too.
No one said he was a rocket surgeon.
To be honest, this is actually a genius move when it comes to NSFW content.
Almost every pornographic sub has already been astroturfed by e-girls plugging their OnlyFans and Fansly links. Giving them the ability to paywall their content directly on Reddit effectively cuts out the middle-man and allows Reddit to undercut the likes of OF and Fansly with lower transaction fees.
Hello to all the new users!
This will be good. They will eventually drive everyone away!
Who’s on there except bots?
Soon, bots will be here too. I know how this works. It’s better that the worst Redditors stay there, contained by the bot army, than then bringing bots here.
It all depends on the scope of the medium. There is free speech in the US as long as it has little audience and no impact. You can say what you want. When it gets too big, like Reddit (doubled users in 2 years 2014 to 2016 from 75mil to 180mil) a regime operative is put in place.
Enter Jessica Ashoosh. https://mronline.org/2021/06/14/jessica-ashooh-the-taming-of-reddit-and-the-national-security-state-plant-tabbed-to-do-it/
The results were very noticable. Quarantined or deleted subs. Banning/ghostbanning and early bots. And has gotten worse year by year.
When they can’t control the medium, like TikTok or anything from another country with content that is not in line with the US narrative they will make up a reason to forbid it.
LoL, bye bye. Not sad, tho’ we’re building a whole new place here in Fedi-land! Whee!
