Transgender people often (wrongly) get their gender identity conflated with their sexuality. Transphobes already have a visceral reaction to a transgender person, so those feelings automatically extend to how they see a transgender person’s sexuality. And as others have mentioned they may be projecting their own perversions on other people. They have an unhealthy view of sexuality in general, which may be the origin for their transphobia aswell.
When I came out to my mother as transgender she had a hard time dealing with it. She seemed to have a weird fixation with my sexuality and sexual orientation whenever I tried to educate her on the subject, even after I explained to her that sexuality and sexual orientation is not related to my transgender identity.
My mom has always been a prude when it came to raising her boys and constantly would police our vocabulary and sexual jokes. But she had no issues making jokes and comments about my sexuality when I came out to her as a transgender woman. So I can only assume she had unresolved issues with the way she sees sexuality in a way that it makes her uncomfortable and she was projecting her own perversions and unhealthy view of sexuality onto my transgender identity. Because to her why else would I transition if not for my sexual perversions, since that’s the only way she can see world.
On a side note, ever since I started my transition I pretty much stopped watching porn all together. I masturbate less and my mind isn’t constantly fixated on sex and I’m able to experience the world through a much healthier lense. When I’m attracted to someone now, I’m not distracted by my sexual impulses as much and I’m much better able to connect with them as a person. So in short, embracing my transgender identity has dramatically decreased my uncontrolled sexual impulses. So when people paint us as some sort of deviant perverts, it’s actually quite the opposite and nothing could be further from the truth. Not to mention, our sexuality is only a sliver of our transgender identity and we don’t care for strangers making it a focus.
They are pedo projecting. Every accusation is a confession. The ones that call random people & groups pedos without any evidence like Musk does are telling on themselves.
It’s always this. History has borne it out.
It’s projection they don’t want to remove pedophiles from their own ranks, and demonizing a scapegoat minority group they can blame their own failures on.
They really wish these articles were about trans people instead of clergy
People were once told that if you wore the clothes of the opposite sex, you were a pervert. If you wanted to be the other sex, you were a sexual deviant. And people who have no experience outside of these views TOLD to them find out there are people out there like that, they are perverted deviants who must be doing other deviant things to. That’s how people connect the two. False logic and correlation based on ignorance.
To transphobes, ANY acceptance of trans folks is too much acceptance. So, they try and spread propaganda that’s awful and scary. Unfortunately, enough ignorant people will believe it. When dealing with the general public, you almost can’t have a reasonable discussion on the topic without pedophilia coming up. The subject is complex enough, and this further muddies the waters, which is what transphobes want. Even though it’s been debunked, there’s now an association in some people’s minds between transsexuals and pedophilia.
Eventually people will laugh at this idea, and look at it the way we look at tragic paranoia like the Salem witch trials. Sadly, that won’t happen soon enough to help the people whose rights are being violated right now.
It’s very basic ‘think of the children’ rhetoric.
Our emotions are more easily manipulated in this way, because generally people are hard wired to protect babies and children.
So by associating trans people with paedophiles, right wingers are able to more easily hijack into what would otherwise be rational people. It also makes it more difficult to debate against because nobody wants to be labelled as someone who wants to hurt kids.
Best answer here. So much overthinking in this thread. Nope, OP nailed it, that simple, nothing need be added.
Pure propaganda.
Just before I left the right, some people admitted it was a “noble lie”, to uphold male supremacy, as if one is able to change their gender why should they even stay in highly abusive relationships.
Of course true believers will eat up the “protect the children” line, but the opportunists just want be able to beat their wives into a bloody bulb, who will still love them after all of that, they just want a stronger “cisheteronormativity”.
Once you call someone a pedo, that’s it end of thought end of evidence. They are a oedo and so they are evil
It’s not meant to make sense. It’s meant to make you shut down any argument in favor of giving non heterosexual people human rights. That’s all.
Transphobes aren’t using logic. They try to brand us as pedophiles to try to get rational people on their side and to normalize hate, but it’s a distraction. We’re obviously not pedos.
It also serves dual purpose because most transphobes look up to politicians who are literal pedos
Yuuup. Ten times out of ten it’s a republican politician who needs to “think of the children” a lot less.
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Of the infinitesimally small percentage who might be, (a) it has absolutely nothing to do with them being trans and (b) I wager they’d be less likely to act on it than cis pedos since the risk of violence is already significantly higher just from being trans. Not to defend pedos in any way- we want absolutely nothing to do with them
Use your brain
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You say, “biased towards the trans community,” I say, “biased against baseless bigotry,” as any sensible person should be.
Your ramblings may be scattered with statements that are agreeable in isolation (like “they are just people like the rest of us”), but your stance seems to ignore the fact that, unlike “the rest of us”, the trans community is being specifically targeted and marginalized, so for the sake of equity it seems fair (not biased) for the rest of us to more vehemently defend them.
Apart from concerted sociopolitical efforts to make an underclass that can be harmed at will and blamed for everything, there’s a couple of less deliberately malicious explanation for a lot of people.
1: Category violation -> perversion -> predator -> monster.
2: I don’t think it’s real -> they are lying -> why would they lie about gender -> to lull people into a false sense of security -> predator -> monster
Both are of course incredibly false and hateful, and both of course are pushed maliciously and cynically by many, but I think some people are actually taken in by one or other of these.
There is an ongoing attempt to create an equivalence of Trans Persons (and anyone exposing youth to LGBTQ+ ideas in any form, including loving families) to pedophiles through CONSTANT repetition, despite any lack of widespread evidence. There is also a simultaneous attempt to strongly advocate for death penalty for pedophiles. I’m sure you can see where this is heading …
The question I want answered is was the (fake) word “pedosexual” made up by them or by trolls making fun of them?
“Pedosexual” was a false flag operation by 4channers to try and make people think LGBTQ folks supported pedos.
Was that with the MAPS thing?
What are MAPs? First time I’ve come across it.
I think it was meant to be minor attracted person or some shit. I mostly just remember 4Chan trying to lump it into LGBT+ issues
Thank you for your reply.
MAPs is a 4chan troll yes
I honestly have no idea if MAPs are trolls or actual pedos trying to rebrand.
Also, pedophiles are not all child molesters and vice versa.
In fact, most child abusers are not pedophiles. They victimize children not because they are children but because they are easy prey.
It’s about the power and control. If their victims weren’t children, they’d be called sociopaths or psychopaths.
Pedophilia can be easily treated but because of hate-mongers who have conflated these two things, many fear they’ll be arrested if they seek help. Even if they’ve never done anything wrong. Some do become abusers because they feel like they have no safe way of dealing with their feelings.
Trying to equate LGBTQ to pedophilia is using misinformation and lies to hurt and scare.
It’s the ultimate in hate and ignorance.
Mass purge of the Republican Party and owner class?
If the Republican Party can purge the United Kingdom they deserve the win that’s impressive range.
Only if justice was class blind, but it’s not.
That door can be made to swing both ways.
Only if you have the power to do so.
Projection and prejudice, probably.
This is how propaganda works. Take something you want people to hate, and insist that it is equivalent to something people already hate.
Because people they shouldn’t trust but do, lie to them.
