• kamiheku@sopuli.xyz
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    4 days ago

    I absolutely did do that as a kid too, lol. Anybody know what the story behind the cartoon trope is?

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      3 days ago

      Afaik, atomizers with breath spray used to be pretty common. I used to take care of old folks, some of whom went through the great depression as adults. A lot of them had those.

      Disposable ones have been a thing since at least the 50s, if my memory isn’t failing. Binaca used to have commercials back before cable was ubiquitous, and a lot of people carried some to freshen up breath.

      So, somewhere along the way, the specific trope of a guy spraying once or twice before hitting on a woman crept into social awareness. I never dug too deep looking into it, but it allegedly apparently was a thing.

      The culture of lots of coffee at work followed by a drink or three after at a bar wasn’t exactly great for oral hygiene overall, and definitely makes breath funky.

      The singer part of the trope, where you see them spritz before hitting the stage is supposedly a different thing. That was from stage actors, but that’s as far as I’ve ever looked, that it was a thing. No idea what they used, what the reasoning was. Never piqued my curiosity enough to look deeper.

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      3 days ago

      Not really a “trope” since singers used to, and probably some still use it. The sprays usually contain menthol, eucalyptus, and glycerin, to moisturize and soothe their throats.

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            3 days ago

            Mine can get irritated from talking for two hours. I still think it shouldn’t happen, but I have no medical background to back up my statement.

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              Well, if it helps, I have a friend that sings and plays lead guitar in his band. I’ve also been present both when they’re performing and recording. Dated a less professional singer as well, plus was forced into a chorus class as a teen.

              Singing is not easy. You’re not only using your vocal cords, you’re using your whole body.

              You’re breathing in fast, while sustaining long phrases with vibration. This makes the entire throat get dry, and draws blood into the throat tissues. Mucous production does increase, but it’s in response to the irritation and stresses, which means that everything from your lips all the way down to your lungs is working very hard.

              Singers all have their own remedies for this. I don’t know any that use a spray, they tend to favor soothing beverages of some kind.

              But even doing a single song, with warming up before singing, causes minor irritation. The process of recording a single track can be enough to need a decent length break, depending on exactly what you’re singing and how. Some notes (usually the ones in your highest resister) are more strain than others, and if you’re doing unusual techniques like growls, screams, overtone singing, etc, it can be more stressful to the anatomy.

              I’ve recorded both a fairly mild metal growl, and some overtone singing with my friend. My throat felt like I had strep after maybe a half hour of work. Took me that night and the entire next day to feel better. But I’m an amateur, so most singers wouldn’t take that long to recover from a minor amount of work.

              But doing an hour on stage, or recording all day? Your throat is going to feel rough no matter how well you treat it.

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          3 days ago

          I think it’s more for the kind of people that do a couple of musical shows a day

          I’ve lost my voice from singing as part of the crowd at a music gig before, I can totally imagine that being a problem that professional singers need to mitigate

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          3 days ago

          Why say this when you clearly don’t know instead of looking it up? This exact thing is, just stating something that’s purely ignorance, is way too common. How did you not realise you’re ignorant about this? And then you decide that you should comment and not only show everyone you’re ignorant about it but also that you’re an idiot for not realising that. It’s just so fucking dumb.

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            I’ve been learning how to scream for about 3 years now, if I understand correctly pain after any amount of time can be a sign of bad technique, and I’ve extrapolated to singing

            Was it wrong? Yes. Sometimes it doesn’t occur to me that I’m doing something bad until a few hours to months later