Summary
A new Leger poll reveals that 27% of Canadians now consider the U.S. an “enemy” country, while 30% still see it as an ally.
The survey follows escalating tensions, including President Trump’s tariff threats and his suggestion that Canada should become a U.S. state.
Trump remains widely unpopular in Canada, with 74% viewing him unfavorably. Political affiliation influences perceptions, with Conservatives more likely to see the U.S. as an ally.
Liberals, NDP, and Bloc Québécois supporters view the U.S. more negatively.
I don’t remember saying shit about us not handling this internally or going to war but you do you.
The idea that the USA is untouchable by global counterparts is absurd. Look at what Russia does to our elections with a couple of script kiddies. We can absolutely be targeted and displaced by outside forces, especially with the current crop of dipshits running the federal government right now.
They do have a point though, that it’s your mess to clean up. Unlike so many US citizens, many of us actually know that you don’t always need to blow something up, figuratively or literally, when it stops working properly.
We don’t want to “take you down”. We want you to finally start behaving your damn selves. Clean up your own fucking messes, we’re not your parents.
That’s fair and I 100% agree.
We couldn’t even get our fellow countrymen to wear cloth masks without them screeching and guzzling horse dewormer. We’ve been demanding universal healthcare since at least the 90s; we got a fucking insurance marketplace instead, and the right wing has never stopped bitching about it to this day. If we could clean it up, we would have, but there’s a subset of our population that’s hopelessly propagandized. The only upshot here is that it tends to be a regional phenomenon and might be able to be addressed via balkanizing; just walk away from the table and let the fucking bozos be bozos in their own little bozoville.
It’s funny, the French are so often made fun of for being cowards but if their government does anything to try to strip their rights the whole fucking place throws a well deserved fit. The US mostly just sits on their fucking hands with the BLM protests being the only significant country-wide movement in a long time.
“We couldn’t”—fuck off, ya’ll didn’t even try. The slightest inconvenience and the country folds, and that’s even if any of you are paying any attention to the news at all. Too many of you fools don’t even know what the fuck is going on; at least Fox viewers are trying to keep up with politics(badly, but they’re doing it).
Get your fuckasses outside and do something that isn’t passing blame and staying home.
Every time we “do stuff” the mainstream media seizes the narrative and blocks popular support. The big thing from my region was CHAZ… a protest occupying ten city blocks for almost a month in response to police brutality. National media convinced the Right that we burned down Seattle, cops threw a fit and stopped doing their jobs, and if anything things are worse now for having tried.
We need enough general unrest that when things get violent, and they will, they can’t monopolize the narrative and send in the military. And even then I think the Right wins that war unless other countries are willing to help.
There is more than just “main stream media” out there. And yes, it’s a hard battle to fight, I won’t deny that, but c’mon, really? And this also goes back to the fact that too many citizens don’t even know what’s going on at any given moment out of willful ignorance.
It’s a tough battle upwards, the established propaganda model helps make sure of that, but undeniably at the end of the day, the workers in the US hold more than enough power collectively to threaten decision makers into compromise (and, if you have the guts, submission). I’m not even talking about violence, I’m talking about things like withholding labor and simple sabotage.
All Russia did was give a nudge to the literal trillions of dollars in capital held by elites who wanted nothing more than full-blown fascism. All the Kremlin had to do was finance whoever could sow the most distrust in democratic institutions and wedge themselves in existing divides within the US. It’s the most boring coup in history, people voting for Hitler not because of Bolshevism of whatever but because they’re triggered by fucking vaccines and pronouns.
Conversely even if the EU went full hybrid warfare (which we aren’t because we can’t even do anything about the open fascists in our own Union), the counterplay is rebuilding trust which is harder by orders of magnitude than just buying up a social media, deleting moderation, and promoting the Nazi stuff.
Best we could hypothetically do is sanction y’all into autarchy and hope the subsequent recession/depression acts as an electroshock to the population, but you’re already doing it to yourselves and besides I see no reason why the two thirds of y’all who either don’t care or actively support fascism would change their minds. It will be just like Putin Orban or Erdogan, 15 years from now shit will be worse than ever for the 99 % but Republicans will still win elections without even needing to cheat much thanks to their complete control over state propaganda. Your democracy is dead, you should be moving through the stages of grief and planning your next move.
I’d love to be proven wrong but there’s too much historical precedent, and zero precedent to Americans being even remotely close to politically conscious enough to engage in “forceful” political change (unless the force is being exerted on Black people, then the “well regulated militia” comes out the woodwork). Hell, the videos from “protests” I’ve been seeing this week in your major cities look so pathetic it makes Denver look like a large village.