TL;DR I didn’t make it in time. Fuck you Trump!
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This will definitely affect every American, every Canadian, and all citizens and residents of any country targeted by a trade war.
Not sure how much it will affect China tbh, they can self sustain. The manufacturers and exporters though, they won’t be happy about it.
Yeah. We don’t know how it will affect China. But some people have calculated how much it will affect US people
Trump’s taxes on imports (tariffs) from Canada, Mexico, and China will cost people in the United States somewhere around $260 billion a year or around $2,000 a household.
Here is an article about it:
Trump Set to Whack US Working Class With Historic $2,000 Tax Hike
Many Americans do not care. Brains have been rotted by their social media and “anti-woke” identity politics so critical thinking is waning. They’ll pay more and find a way to not blame it on Trump.
America as a positive cultural force in the world is on its dying breaths. It was a good run. The rest of the world should be looking at moving forward while leaving America and the crypto, AI, and social networking dystopia it seems obsessed with creating behind.
The rest of the world should be emphasizing divestment in the US and, overall, leaving America behind at this critical juncture.
It is inane that one of the options is “just hold on for a few days and see what happens” and that it is a viable option at all. Government is in shambles.
This is 100% because of Trump’s flip flop ways. Fuck this guy and his MAGA cult.
There’s only one thing businesses hate more than tariffs and that’s uncertainty. They would be happier with the tariffs being definite, than this maybe existing and maybe not existing on a almost daily basis.
Because even if he gets rid of the tariffs, he’ll try this again in a few weeks once he’s forgotten about all of the push back and has randomly decided that Canada is still shipping drugs into the US. Because fentanyl can’t be made in the US, everyone knows that.
He’s stupid but not that stupid. He doesn’t even care where any drug originated from. He surely slotted “hot-button drug name” into place and blamed Canada because he wants to put pressure on them.
One of the few things in his entire life Donald has learned and been able to apply is the US Republican playbook for blame-throwing.
He’s stupid but not that stupid
I’m very certain he is that stupid
I agree, perhaps I misspoke. It’s weird to call out that his understanding of the situation is wrong when he has no understanding of the situation at all and is uninterested in understanding.
Hold off. Kraznov is getting so much shit he is going to walk it back, so he says. Can’t trust him any more than a rabid bat though.
All the business owners voted trump and now they’re crying about free trade 😂
I hope they all fucking starve. I mean it won’t happen but I can dream.
Good thing there isn’t hundreds is miles of unprotected border to snuggle across.
Question: what would happen if lots of people swarmed right next to the border without actually crossing?
We’d have to snuggle with our fellow Americans. That would be weird.
That’s a lot of snuggling
Quite a bit. With increasing prices in the US, lots of people sneak up north with snuggling in mind. You do need to be careful at the official border crossings though. Snuggling is generally frowned upon.
Its a little bit of sexy snuggling that could happen anywhere and any time!
Hmmm… sounds like I need to be spending more time at the border. Question: do we get to choose who we snuggle with or is it like a first come first served situation
You get to pick, but of course it needs to be consensual. But Canadians are very friendly and free with their hugs.
I hate to sound like I’m attacking OP, but unprotected border snuggles are a risky behavior. Please consider having protected border snuggles instead. It feels the exact same, I promise.
I will finally get to snuggle with my girlfriend in Canada!
Hmmm… sounds like I need to be spending more time at the border. Question: do we get to choose who we snuggle with or is it like a first come first served situation
After the November election we bought a fridge early we were mildly interested in that is manufactured in Mexico. It seemed conspiratorial to consider possible tariffs in the purchase equation considering decades of free trade with NAFTA and later USMCA.
Yet here we are and we’re very glad we bought the multi-thousand dollar fridge pre-trump-tarrifs.
Yeah, my car shit the bed right before the election and I had to get a new one.
Looking back, I’m glad I got it when I did. It was manufactured in Mexico, like most cars in America. If my old car had lasted 6 more months, I might have ended up paying 25% more for what I’m driving now.
In November, the boyfriend and I went ahead and pulled the trigger on replacing both of our aging laptops (even though it was a bit earlier than I’d like- I just play a lot of Stardew Valley, I don’t really need anything fancy).
Thank goodness for that. I’m sad other people won’t have been as fortunate.
Our fridge is 12 years old and we’re just hoping it keeps chugging on 🥲 Four more years!
But this will make the cost of eggs go down!/s
I mean… it might make the eggs cost less relative to other things.
Crash the market hard enough and people won’t be able to afford them…
“Additionally, the $800 exemption for low-value goods has been removed.”
I didn’t even know such a thing existed, it’s not something reported on the news.
So every product will be hit with the tariff raising prices, and not just expensive products getting the tariffs. Yikes!
This is what allowed Temu and Alibaba and Wish and the like to happen (their business model was to send every single product as a single package worth under 800$, leading to enormous shipping times and waste etc., but they don’t have to pay import taxes).
enormous shipping times
This definitely improved over time. I don’t order much from Aliexpress, but the last two items I ordered arrived in just over a week - a similar time frame as ordering from a US store that doesn’t do fast shipping. A few days in China, then on a plane, then a few days in the USA.
I’ve seen a similar thing happen overtime for Aliexpress shipping to Europe - it used to take 2 months to were I am (Portugal), now it takes a bit over a week.
I think they set-up some kind of consolidated shipping operation so that the sellers on their site can ship things via Aliexpress’ own system, which is way faster (and invariably involves air-shipping via The Netherlands) and often is listed as Free Shipping.
I’ve bought once or twice from sellers there that don’t use it and those packages still take 2 months to get here.
I mention this because it makes sense that Aliexpress has set up a similar system for the US given that it’s a market which is almost as big as the EU.
They also have warehouses in the EU which means that as a customer you don’t have to deal with duties and import VAT at all.
damn!
And it’s not even this government’s first big unambiguous fuck you to the common people.
Why does this article describe it as a “loophole”? It’s not a loophole; it was intentionally written into law.
…so you ordered this in July when he announced the tariffs?
Wish the company name was included. They seem to have their shit together.
Me too. I’m on the right side of the border and would happily order from this company if they sell something I need.
Soooooo, what happens if you drive to Canada, buy something, and then drive home?
CBP website still says personal exemptions of $200 per person exist if you’ve been out of the USA for 48 hours or more, but who knows if that still applies with the trump bull in the international trade china shop.
“You may still bring back $200 worth of items free of duty and tax. As discussed earlier, these items must be for your personal or household use.”
The way I read it you don’'t have to be out for more than 48 hours. It’s really not phrased very clearly though.
If you cannot claim other exemptions because you have not been out of the country for at least 48 hours, you may still bring back $200 worth of items free of duty and tax.
Smuggling?
Your butt will be probed for illegal immigrants, drugs or car parts
They don’t even bother with your car trunk anymore, that’s too obvious. Straight into the anus they search.
You’d have to declare it and pay any import taxes on it, same as you would have had to do before the tariffs.
Tariffs? Oh right, import taxes. Fuck Trump.
Ew…I don’t even want to know what cheeto based sexual diseases you’d get from fucking trump…
I worry it’s a lot, and many different varieties. They may be thunder-doming in his body as we speak, with only the injections from the pre-teen blood banks he has trapped in the basement keeping everything at bay.
Fun fact: he’s powered by syphilis - keeps him crazy but it keeps him going.
drug induced dementia, and incontinence.
You might come down with a severe case of Eric.
And most of the media went right along with wording such as “tariffs on China” rather than than “tariffs on US buyers”
They should just call them import or sales taxes, the average person doesn’t get tariffs.
MSMs are totally complicit because the owners of these msms are trump supporters. CNNs and the others are just fox-lite.
“media” is already plural btw
Does anyone actually know why we are putting tariffs on Canadian goods?
Because Trump thinks he’s Putin and wants to annex Canada.
Does anyone actually know why we are putting tariffs on Canadian goods?
I think his objective is to try and damage Canada’s economy, but I’m not sure exactly why. Apparently he really is serious about the “51st state” thing along with the Greenland and Panama thing. He’s just that megalomaniacal. He wants to be like Putin.
Because trump is a fucking brain-dead narcissistic man-child moron? What more explanation are you expecting?
Trump administration says fentanyl though very little moves across the Canadian border. They’re using it to declare a national emergency and therefore bypass Congress.
From Canada’s perspective it’s to weaken Canada’s perspective it’s to weaken the Canadian economy so that it’s easier to annex.
My theory is that they want to control the North-West Passage, which due to climate change will become a high traffic trade route. Something currently dominated by Panama (which he also wants). So they’re putting pressure on Canada now.
Greenland is in a similar situation but I think there may also be oil and such there as well.
Didn’t they say climate change was a hoax or was that just for their brain dead cult followers? Amazing how easily they are manipulated. It’s like Republicans captured all the media then spewed shit to dominate them, but hey, it works magnificently.
Align the US with other partners
It’s a tax increase which can be (and is being) mis-portrayed as something that the seller pays, when in fact it’s the buyer that pays it.
In practice what Trump did was institute the equivalent of an additional 25% sales tax for all Americans when they buy goods manufactured in Canada or Mexico, but because this tax is usually payed by companies (which do most of the importing) and most people aren’t at all familiar with how Import/Export works, he seems to be getting away with portraying it as a tax on Canada and Mexico.
(The concern of those countries is not that they pay more - which they don’t - it’s that a selective “sales tax” that only applies to products they export to the US makes their products less competitive on price when sold in the US, hence they will sell less which is bad for their companies)
I’ve seen some theories around that the purpose of this significant increase in tax is to pay for the tax cuts for the wealthy that the Republicans are passing.
Andrew Jackson famously paid off the national debt through a massive tariff that almost started the Civil War 20 years early
Taxes applied to companies get passed to consumers
Good luck getting the Trumpettes to understand that…
Because Trump is a Russian asset intent on causing as much destruction to the USA as he can.
Because Trump has a toddler’s level of understanding of how international trade works, along with a toddler’s tendency to throw tantrums when challenged.
Trump says it’s because China, Canada, and Mexico are bringing fentanyl in.
He just changed his reason to “Make America rich again”. Apparently he forgot about the drugs thing.
https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/trump-order-tariffs-steel-aluminum-b2695793.html
Props to whoever this company is. This is one of the best bits of customer service I’ve seen in years.
This should be the standard lol. Who you dealing with, the mafia?
I mean technically it’s not the company’s responsibility. If you’ve ordered something and they’ve sent it in a reasonable time frame and it just gets charged extra on entry. It’s not the company putting the price up, it’s your own government, so you don’t really have a recourse.
Pretty standard business practice for the U.S. is “The Customer Can Always Get Fucked.” There’s a lot of money that’s basically just been stolen from me because I got tired with fighting the company to just ship me the thing I paid for, and I either bought the thing somewhere else or decided I didn’t want it anymore. Most companies don’t even actually have customer service, just chatbots or outsourced chumps who only seem to exist for Americans to yell at, because they have no authority to do, view, or fix anything.
Haha, unreal. Not American so I didn’t realise how bad the customer service was. To be fair, the chatbot crap has taken over in the UK too and you often have to request to talk to a real person. My partner always just phones the companies directly and mostly gets her issues sorted out that way.
Solid boundaries, clearly communicated. Giving the customer a choice without hurting their own bottom line. I agree. Excellent handling of the situation.
I may don’t know how the law works but I believe (at least in my country) if you agree on the conditions you can’t pull a Darth Vader and alter the conditions after signing/ordering and paying.
Now if there is a clause that states otherwise this may change.
But I agree, at least they are open and upfront with it.
Doesn’t matter on their end. If they wanted to they could ship it and let it get held up by customs with a demand to pay the tariff to release it.
Import duties are not always part of the agreement.
They didn’t change the rules, there is now a charge by the government on it getting delivered, not by the company.
I would change “not always” to “practically never”. Every e-commerce site I have ever used warns you that you are responsible for import duties if shipped internationally.
Completely agree, I was trying to avoid the “well actually” response.
I’ve had a number of items get held by FedEx (or whoever) because of import duties over the years and I’ve had to pay the delivery company to get it released.
This is a well worn path, and kudos to this one to warn you that new tarrifs are in place, the customer would be subject to them, and giving them an option to decline it.
The doctrine is called force majeure. Most contracts have a force majeure clause.
If an external factor makes a contract impossible as agreed, the contract can be made void under force majeure. This is very common, and suddenly applied tariffs would likely be covered by a force majeure clause because neither party were responsible for them.
They are not changing anything. They are warning the customer import charges wil incur if the purchase proceeds. They gain nothing and stand to lose a sale.
I bought a bunch of electronics from China back in December. No regrets.
I’m worried their networking equipment could be compromised, worse than “American” equipment.
I cant wait until the European/Mexican/Chinese parts that I order from the USA that always arrive with a customs declaration of Origin:USA … starts biting me in the ass because of their ignorance and Canadian Customs tries to hit me with Tariffs that shouldnt apply.
the better option is to just stop doing business with American shops. and thats what I’ve chosen, the USPS and Canadian Postal service are both such shitholes, that I have legitimatley recieved stuff from the UK, Poland and Denmark faster than I’ve recieved stuff fom Illinois and Iowa , in the orders I’ve made this year. For small things too.
Any time an eligible item crosses the US / Canada border, a 25% tariff is applied. This is how the US does it, so this is what the Canadian government is copying.
This is terrible for auto manufacturing, where various parts cross the border multiple times between raw materials, loose parts, assembled parts and assembled vehicle. Every time those parts or materials cross either border, it gets tariffed 25%.
I believe if your item comes from the US, lands in another country, gets re-labeled and then enters Canada, it won’t be tariffed, but don’t quote me on that.
How do they define “an item”, because couldn’t a bunch of people get together and order stuff from outside the US and then just have it all delivered in one big box? Are they going to open every box to make sure that there’s only one item in it, how do they know it’s not just one big item?
For example if I order one washing machine then that’s one item but if I order various parts for a washing machine then that’s lots of items, but technically the washing machine already contained those parts that were considered one item
The tax is on the value , if you declare your washing machine has value of 1$ then the tax would be labelled accordingly but that would be a fraud.
Hence if you order parts of the washing machines you would have to declare value of the individual part and it would be taxed accordingly.
I believe it has to be declared on the packing manifest, but it relies on the expeditor being truthful. That’s my understanding of it.
I don’t think it’s about the place of manufacture, but rather the place of origin. A lot of items are manufactured all over the place.
