whether there’s less or more of it matters significantly less than whether it’s let inside a cracked door where it WILL metastasize, as evidenced by this genocide and a multitude of others.

Americans having to experience a fraction of the pain they heap upon others is a good thing

this form of propaganda is a false framing of reality to encourge people to vote with the seemingly “less evil” option while ignoring it’s consequences down the road and is a trap that will only present you with “less evil” options each and every time until the ultimate evil is reached anyways, like it has for the gazans.

no one believes that trump is any less evil about any democrat and only people who have swallowed this propaganda believe that any imperialist is good for this or any genocide.

I’m going to go ahead and add to this, if you are willing cast aside progress in the name of perfection, you will never make it to either one.

Why do we have to keep telling you dipshits this insane logic doesn’t work?

If the democratic party is willing to cast aside progress (being against genocide) in the name of perfect (funding and supporting Israels genocide), you’ll never make it to the presidency.

Why is the responsibility on random voters, vs people who are actually in power and have the means to change policy with the knowledge that the policy is negatively harming their electoral chances? Why is the “electability” argument not applicable to stopping genocide as a reason to criticise democrats, versus, say, insisting we can’t have healthcare because people love insurance companies too much as a defence of why Democrats don’t support medicare for all?

Why do we justify or criticise some policies by appealing to their perceived/assumed popularity, whilst appealing to the responsibility of voters to simply accept whatever is insisted upon them in others?

Maybe if people like you engaged your fucking brain on questions like this, you might come up with some answers that, however uncomfortable they are for you right now, might make you stop defending genocide as a means to divert responsibility from those in power to those who politicians are meant to be appealing to in order to win an election.

Has there been progress in the US since way back in Reagan’s time?!

Because at so many levels, from inequality and the collapse of social mobility to widespread civil society surveillance and support for Genocide abroad, the US has been constantly regressing for decades both under Democrats and Republicans.

I mean, the last actual American President passing measures that one could call “progress” was JFK. Even Obama was the President that ordered the highest number of drone murders whilst in office of all and decided that the way to save the economy after the 2008 Crash was to protect asset owners and large financial institutions - the rich, not the rest - resulting in the steep increase in social inequality and final collapse of social mobility in the US of the last decade, and which created the fertile ground for the growth of support for the likes of Trump.

From my viewpoint as an European, you’re just defending a slower regression, which is understandable but it ain’t “progress” (last chance at that was Bernie Sanders and his primary was very overtly torpedoed by the DNC), and it’s also understandable that others with strong moral convictions and even personal reasons connected to America’s continued descent into evil aren’t supporting any evil in America, even the “lesser” one that slows down the regression a bit.

You would have been absolutelly right if this election was indeed progress vs regression, but it wasn’t, it was one Genocide-endorsing candidate who chose to try to attract far-right votes by getting cozier with the likes of the Cheney family versus a Genocide-endorsing candidate who is openly a far-right populist - two forms of evil differing mainly in delivery style and how fast do they want to go rightward - you blaming people for chosing “none of the above” is pure tribalism.

You do support genocide, so long as it’s committed by Democrats, as you’ve demonstrated in this very thread. And I’m all for genocide supporters being crushed by the tram.

The best possible for the most amount of people is whatever brings the destruction of the US the fastest.

Also fucking disgusting that that you bloviate about “we have to work together as a species” when you don’t even see Palestinians as human

@NewSocialWhoDis Thanks for the clarifcation albeit I seriously doubt biden had any real control over what the generals do, and in this case they most likely didnt want to piss off Egypt, which has a huge military ground force to match the ones israel and the US DON’T have. Rumsfeld’s leaner meaner army happened… at least the Leaner part.

Incase anyone had any doubt that BlueMAGA lib are every bit the sadistic fascists that their red counterparts are:

How fucking unsurprising of the white supremacist fascist subhuman trash that you are that you come into a Palestine comm and assume everyone is an American. Because you literally don’t realize that non-westerners are human beings that exist in real life. Of course you’ll sleep like a baby while your government exterminates hundreds of thousands: you’re an inhuman monster who loves genocide. You’re getting exactly what you wanted.

The Democrats were already doing that you genocide denying fuck. At least under Trump, you BlueMAGA fascists will at least admit that it’s happening

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You barely even have to scratch liberals anymore and they go full fascist

that’s the liberal spirit

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Yes, he too was a terrorist.

The investigators found that neither ICE nor U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) maintain good enough records to determine just how many people the agencies arrested or deported in error.

It’s like 6 sentences in.

We’ve already narrowed that vast majority down quite a bit, I would bet anything that a visa (much less a green card) holder wouldn’t face this much retaliation in October 2023.

There are about 50 million foreign-born residents in America, so in 3 months this administration has frozen the political voice of ~15% of the population.

They make up ~20% of the working age population, so if you’re someone in the get-out-and-protest demographic that gives you decent odds of it theoretically not ending poorly. I guess you could say that’s a vast majority, but it was nearly 100% before.

We’re on pace for 50% suppression by the end of the year (20% silenced in a single quarter) and punishment will certainly be retroactive. You can understand the dilemma of 50/50 future odds you end up in jail for exercising your constitutional rights.

Organised what coup, zelenksyy won with 73% of the votes in 2019.

We have to work longer because our oldies stopped having children. That’s just how it works. if you didn’t spend your money on having a child, then use it for your pension.

Our stoxx 600 has been doing well lately.

Median net wealth of my country Belgium is 250k euros per adult.

i’m educated, have job security, it has never been this easy to do investments at low cost.

2023 and 2024 have been good years, stoxx 600 increased about 20 to 25% in value. The economic downturn was 2022.

In Belgium more and more people are getting jobs. Our employment rate keeps increasing.

https://tradingeconomics.com/belgium/employment-rate#%3A~%3Atext=Employment+Rate+in+Belgium+averaged%2Csource%3A+EUROSTAT

In 10 years it has increased from 62 to 67%